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| Australia's prime minister John Howard and opposition leader Kevin Rudd revealed the Australian government's sweeping new $189 million anti-pornography initiative on Friday at an event hosted by the Australian Christian Lobby. During the presentation, which was broadcast to over 700 Australian churches, Howard discussed Christian values and described the government's latest costly plans for preventing pictures of naked people from clogging The Tubes. Only last year, the Australian government spent $116 million on a similar initiative....It is ironic that Australia's latest costly anti-pornography initiative leverages the same kind of ISP-level filtering technologies that were dismissed as inadequate only a year ago. In related news, the Australian Parliament is evaluating a legislative proposal introduced by indigenous affairs minister Mal Brough that aims to impose extreme restrictions on pornography in the Northern Territory....Mal Brough's proposal...would implement a broad ban on X-rated films in the Northern Territory, and impose jail sentences for porn "trafficking" on those who are caught with five or more X-rated films even in instances where the pornographic products are not being distributed. From http://arstechnica.com Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha*gasp* Discuss. |
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| again...why do people care SO much what other people do in the privacy of their own homes that they're going out of their ways to organise all these lobbying groups.....sad | |||||
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| The idea of a victimless crime is a logical contradiction. | |||||
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| Not sure exactly what you're saying there Ati, but it's a horrible injustice that child pr0nographers exist, or that abusive 'pimps' take advantage of innocent, helpless young girls. But one does not stem the tide of prawnography by going after the demand side. Much less spend millions of tax-payers' dollars on ineffective strategies. When injustice has been done, stand for the rights of the wronged and let justice be served. Otherwise, leave well enough alone. |
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| I agree that child pronography is horrible, but frankly I see no need to 'stop' pornography at all. If someone wants to watch porn (so long as it is between consenting adults), that is entirely their business, not the state's. As far as the people within it go, no-one is forcing them to participate (and if they are, then the police need to get involved). They may regret involvement later, but it is not up to the government to 'protect' the people from their own choices. If pronography is criminalized, then it creates a crime that has no victim. There is no justification for using public funds to pursue the criminalization of an essentially harmless (generally) industry, for puritanical religious reasons. |
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| "Almost one third of the population of the Northern Territory are Indigenous Australians, a far greater proportion than in any other state or territory in Australia." Hmmm. Do I detect some racism here? |
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| its worth pointing out that while australian politicians are all for stoppping regular aussie adults watch recorded human mating, prostitution is legal in the Australian Capital Territory. Indeed, one can find numerous brothels and sex shops within a few kilometers of parliament house. In fact, not only porn, but pot is decriminalised in Canberra. So while a poor black man in the northern territory cant even spank his monkey, John Howard can legally screw the living daylights out of three transvestite prostitutes while smoking a 10 gram spliff. Australia is definitely one of the most racist countries on the planet. South African apartied was actually modelled on the white Australia policy. |
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| I think the governments argument here (apart from appealing to christain absolutist morality), is the possibility that the production and consumption of legalised pornography (which is generally accepted as being demeaning towards women), may in the minds of men, stretch the boundaries so far that "it only has to be stretched a little further for less respected acts of fornication be justifiable." I believe in central australia, they were saying they have many issues amongst aboriginal communities with underage sexual abuse and rape taking place (thus their heavy handed (and racist)treatment here). Does the objectification of women in private time lead to disrespect in public ?? In this sense it is different to the gay relationship/gay marriage issue. Though funnily enough, those on the right (and the wrong) probably wouldn't find it too difficult to lump both these issues together. Of course theres also the argument that the free distribution of fully consented pornography leads to lower real life sexual abuse, because the people get there rocks off at home in private. So what do you reckon, is this the case??? Will ban of pornography cause a sort of masked 'klu klux klanian' type under cover rebellion, is the government perhaps making the issue worse? As far as wasting dollars on ineffective methods.. pahh just tack it onto the election marketing budget. |
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| illegal porn leads to black market porn. Bring it on! i'll make packet downloading porn from some suckers unsecured network through tor and then selling the burnt disks on the street. "they dont gotta burn the books they just remove em" -Rage Against The Machine |
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| Sorry, haven't heard of the pron laws. | |||||
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| i have no idea what the porn law are where I currently live (in New Zealand) but it doesn't really seem relevant. I get porn (yes, I'm adult enough to admit I look at porn from time to time) from international sites on the internet that as far as I can tell aren't being blocked on any level. Also, I agree about the black market thing. It's supply and demand. People want it and will pay for it, someone will find a way to deliver. Protitution is legal here and I can't really see why it isn't everywhere else as well. I mean, I wouldn't go to a massage parlour since I am in a relationship but I can't see anything wrong with someone paying for that. Supply and demand... | |||||
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| illegal prostitution just results in poor conditions for sex workers and clients. | |||||
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