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I am entirely inactive.
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and months later again...
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I don't get what you are saying Seth. Half the time time the hand is travelling right.
From 3 till 9 it is negative, from 9 till 3 it is positive.
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why don't you jsut call it whatever you want to
and personally i think you are looking for psychology and sociology.
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lol
seriously, I think we have our answer
predator beats olds school termi
new school termi beats predator.
Anyone think differently?
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no
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All Love
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Caged little animals
made into criminals
Teach us fear
Tame and sugestible
Lame and edible
Keep us here
f#5 B5 A5 G#5
If my enemy's enemy is my friend
C#5 D5 E5
then you're showing me knowingly who to defend
F#5 A5 C#5 D5
but mean means don't justify the end
A
If its all love
Bm
its allright
D
and your all wrong
A
but I wont fight.
Love is filling me
filled up with energy
are you feeling me?
If its all love
then its all right
but your all wrong
so i wont fight.
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Venom
“We dont need your fear” The future said. “Because we'll still be here, when your dead.”
“And our lives are wrapped in lies, your like a spider catching flies.
The planet is infected and it is being digested, eaten alive, from the inside.
Cathode fangs pump in Paralysis while the owed banks feed the cyst.
And i'm too weak to raise a fist or to speak, exept for this.
It's all nations under corporations, rebelion is absorbed because their selling the swords.
So its taxation without representation. Law is the paw of the beast, and war is the saw of teeth against tail.
They harness fear to harvest tears, the hardest hear were taken first
and we stood still with good will like kills waiting for the worst.
But graffitti is scrawled by weak me on the walls of this cage of violence
with all the rage of silence cus while i'm dying within I'm trying to sing.
But none in the herd will hear of words because
It's all nations under corporations, rebelion is absorbed because their selling the swords.
So its taxation without representation. Law is the paw of the beast, and war is the saw of teeth against tail.
They call this shit democracy, but all it is is an oligarchy, because rich cunts beget rich sons, who get big guns and keep it this way, if peeps should stray we sweep em away. We're like sheep in the hay with food piled high while dudes die outside. The tube smiles wide as it tries to hide the lies
but its all nations under corporations its all stations all the time,
we're all facing the same revelation; invasion of the mind.
Because
truth is now the enemy
the abused are now the casualties
there used to be morality
but now there is greed
and we're milked of our life, and billed for the right
to be killed in a fight for peace
destroyed
in the name of a creator
I'm slain for a saviour
but i don't feel safe and I don't feel saved
I'm enraged
because I'm enslaved
It's all nations under corporations, rebelion is absorbed because their selling the swords.
So its taxation without representation. Law is the paw of the beast, and war is the saw of teeth against tail.
It's all nations under corporations, rebelion is absorbed because their selling the swords.
So its taxation without representation. Law is the paw of the beast, and war is the saw of teeth against tail.
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He apparently is not well versed in the art though
[14:50] eclipseyue: wtf is the butterfly position
[14:50] p0ss: its an extra $50
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You ARE permanently fucked
A half white man, raised by an old southern white woman, who went to an ivy league school won the election. Woot!
Obama is a soft cushiony glove on the iron fist that is still rammed up our collective arses.
Things will continue to get worse under Obama, just as they would no matter which puppet sat in the oval office. He will provide the illusion of improvement, he will restore the veil over the rulers, obsfucate the vivid realism of our debt slavery. I wish the veil were not so opaque, but i am grateful for the glove, as my arse is really hurting.
That said, congratulations America, at least you didn't elect those other two harbringers of the apocolypse. I say all this, because my heart is too battered to accept kind words from someone in a position of power, it is always a trick, there is always a catch.
I do like him tho. Nice talky bits and a gleamy smile face, tall and lovable, down home and heartfelt. It really warms your heart. I even cried in the acceptance speech. Hell, if he walked up to me and asked me to die for him, I probably would.
I just don't trust it, no one gets to power without concessions. And America is not the stand out nation it once was or was fashioned to be, it is more shackled now than before it threw off its shackles, and all the entranced masses need is a man they can follow into the arms of doom.
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I've been on holiday in Surfers Paradise, rainforests and beaches, shuzak took a back seat for a while
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poor yuey.
I WIN!
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hmm i don't know how many people showed up, heres a map of the site
, as you can see, the earth dragon tent was the biggest, and it was near the market stalls ,so there were people walking in and out, there was chai sold up the back. Daze would probably be able to give you a better guesstimate.
BTW, i checked the stats today, every track on the entire album debutted in the top 40.
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Top is entirely relative. The answer would be in the opposite direction of whatever gravitational field is pulling most strongly upon it.
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lol, the sound guy fucked up, he was a noob. I set up all my recording equipment, plugged it all into the desk, set all the levels.. all he had to do was stand there and twiddle his thumbs.. and yet he couldn't resist fucking it up by messing with the levels..
I don't really have time to do all the lyrics, I'll try, but i can't do em at work and i dont have the net at home. *shrugs*
yeah you can chuck em up if you want, the only downside is that downloads count for ten streams in the charts, so it would pretty negatively effect my stats. *shrugs* but its not like i can stop anyone from doing it anyway.
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oh if you do, let me know the addy
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Stupid posts stripping links.
Here it is
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damnit, and i so thought i had this one in the bag!
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No, the Invisibles is the greatest comic book ever. Watchmen is pretty blood ygood tho.
The movie is a good idea, but it will suck. The writer has shunned it, that is allways a bad sign.
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yeah, I'm a proffessional web dev.. seems like a bit of a waste really...
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ha!
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no, seriously, thanks
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thanks zen
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Hold me accountable?
What are you gonna do?
Bomb me?
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Also, there will be a great disease in the world, a pandemic.
I just wanted to post this topic, so it is on the public record.
I saw this shit coming, so don't you dare say no one could have known.
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mmm this week in tech sometimes.. but i cant stand the adds. I listen to university lecture podcasts quite often, from all round the world and different subjects according to my interests. But the thing i listen to most frquently is the 1920's radio network. I adore that shit
I also listen to a game company podcasts once in a while, just to get a vibe for whats coming down the pipeline.
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shuzak fails at emotes
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Daze, thats what I'm saying, there aren't multiple causes. They are all just symptoms.
Personally, when ever I'm faced with problems on this scale, I jsut imagine
If I had no concience, and a huge ammount of money, and allready controlled everything, what would I do?
And strangely enough that is usually what ends up happening.
In this case, it seems to point toward option 1
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Well, i'm in Australia. Thank you
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you wish!
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last line was meant to be option 2
and here is that video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
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this image sums up option 1 nicely
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Well its good to see they changed it.
not that it changes much in the real world, google still knows everything about everyone
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0.o
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Well then, wouldn't you say Google seeing fit to retroactively change the terms of service ammounts to an admission of guilt?
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you wish!
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daze, you CAN post more than once
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In response to eoin, heres my copypasta from reddit on the subject
If you come to my site, I know what browser you came in on, a couple of lines of script will tell me that. but i dont even need the scripts, because i get a report from google analytics, which means they allready know which browser you came in on. They are constantly indexing my sites content, so they know when you author content. so contrary to your stement they DO know if you uploaded content through their browser. and that gives them the right to use it however they see fit.
But that’s just today, maybe you should look at where Google is going
Chrome is a stepping stone between search engine, apps and eventually OS. Once they reach that point, you will have authored your content with their apps, stored it in their OS, and possibly even on their remote storage. At that point they know without a shadow of a doubt who authored it, when, where ,in what format, and any other piece of information you care to note. If this eula still applies, and even worse if it applies to those apps and the OS then you will have absolutely no control over what they do with every piece of data you produce.
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Fred, thats true. I should have said "nearly every protection your copywrite gives you"
You can still use it, but so can they, and anyone they see fit to give it to. i.e. potentially everyone.
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Again, reddit copypasta:
thats covered in the FIRST term of the eula, which im gonna guess you didn't read.
1.1 Your use of Google’s products, software, services and web sites (referred to collectively as the “Services” in this document and excluding any services provided to you by Google under a separate written agreement) is subject to the terms of a legal agreement between you and Google. “Google” means Google Inc.
So services means products, software, services and sites. Including the browser.
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oh no you don't!
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heheheheh
not..thats just for cats..
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If someone is sane and in agony, the choice is theirs.
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you can post more than once
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bloody hell otto, that guy is hmm.. how shall i put this? ... very imaginative
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dead
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not a person.
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wait... netscape?
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I went last night, it was epic. Im making the call:
Best. Superhero Film. Ever.
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have you looked into the parralels with a stand alone complex?
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i feel the same way Gregmaills. Shuzak feels like self.reddit
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Fibs and I have a new favourite band Natiruts
We love the song
Um Anjo do ceu.
They are brasilian reggae, it is the shiznit
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nuff said
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I think there is a social aspect to all this.
religions are essentially social institutions.
Geeks are usually either (too some degree) antisocial or socially inept.
Its like individuals group together to give their inherently solitary existences meaning by becoming part of a greater whole. Wether that greater whole is god, the church or the congregation. they have in a very real sense reshaped their identity by association. And what better new identity than god?
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maybe, at least he looks liek a bitter hard arse this time around.
But i am worried about ruinning my fond memories of Heath Ledger, or getting sad thinking about it.
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I found it on reddit
sooo freakin cool
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actually i found something cooler han netsukuku
olsrd
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were you secretely jim jones?
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I have a plan.
lets get a bunch of god botherers to move in and start arguing with us. Then when they start to take over, we post to digg and reddit cryign for help. "help digg! Geek network being taken over by jesus freaks!"
At which point we have a massive influx of geeks coming to save us
If we cant get bible bashers here any other way, we could start dupe accounts and pretend to be them!
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I am using FF3 as standard now that the firebug site is back up and compatible.
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its true yue. It is an interesting novelty, but as such it would be better if we could just download the whole file.
No more dumping dots to clear chat history...
The two things which made shuzak chat different to other chats (at least in the begining) were the fact that you never knew who was watching you and you never knew what had been said before.
Now it is just another chat app. And as such, it has no ops, it has no topic, it has no bots...
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Jawad, let me ask you this, what does Shuzak do that reddit doesn't?
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I'm actually thinking of hosting a shuzak like site at my house, using drupal.
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and the post hasn't moved for two weeks, let alone leaving the "new" list. In shuzaks hey day, posts didn't last a day.
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so nine people come here in a fortnight.
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ZOMBIE SHUZAK!
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Well I was particularly unimpressed with the instructions that came with it, i have now frisbee'd all the cds in my house, it is certainly not granny friendly so far.
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Me
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the ancient irish song, "I am stretched on your grave"
sung by someone who loved me
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Daze, you've inspired me to write a song like that.
Actually, I'm starring in a short film about suicide, and I'm also doing the soundtrack, so a song like that would be perfect.
Thanks
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bloody good
i hope you got her permission
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guest, designs on pills change frequently, and two pills can have the same print and be completely different. The best way to know how good it is, is to get a testing kit, they available in most countries at a subsidised rate as a public health service, to help avoid bad drugs. get yourself an mdma testing kit and test for yourself, this will show you the relative level of active indgredients.
Beware of cheap pills, they are usually speed bombs, giving you a speed rush instead of an mdma high. Good quality mdma pills are usually relatively exensive but are worth 10 of the cheap ones.
The cheap and nasty way is to try it out. if you;ve got a few, give one to someone whos taken a lot, they will know within an hour if they are any good.
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Well the biggest arguement we've had here had been god vs science. That one went for three whole threads and ended in and resulted in at least one person leaving forever.
but if you want a challenge, I suggest looking up ati's topic on rape. Its a tough question and really hard to give a strait answer on.
have a look at the topics here, there have been heaps of arguments and so there is plenty of material to look through, and "borrow"
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I will think about it for a bit and get back to you
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I'm in
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haha popecorn
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lol, well we try, its a quiet little place lately, but there are still hundreds of threads to comment on, and we'd love to hear your perspective on any of them
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Profdiabolical, that is some excelent lateral thinking there. I suppose i should say no, but just for thinking of it, your person can bring something else
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Jonathan.good, so i'm guessing your planning on eating nails and wx? or are you using those things to build some kind of helicopter?
M.azoulaye, well thats a very sensible choice, but i'd still take industrial strength cling wrap, you can make rope out of plant fibers.
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The green lantern is pretty hardcore, but you just know it would end up being like spiderman 18
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There is a grey area, honestly i am only so abrupt in my answer because the whole concept freaks me out. I've known people hwho have hadit happen, and it is seriously uncool. I wish there was some better methods, but i just dont know of any.
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ati, thats called zeno's paradox, zen, those last two are called the epicurean paradox and the ommipotence paradox. I personally like parrondo's economic paradox, smale's geometrical paradox and the Einstein-podolsky-rosen physical paradox.
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Happy Birthday Mate, what did you get up to?
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Thing is, like most things in the universe we assume a lot more than we actually know. I mean, we THINK most asteroids come from the Oort cloud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oort_cloud , but we don't even know if such a cloud exists. And if it does, we dont know if there might be a giant planet called nemisis floating out there too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_%28star%29. hitting them all into us. If there is, then we are well overdue for another big hit.
emanual velikovsky thought venus was an extra solar body. it still might be.
we just dont know very much at all.
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I would like to see "the invisibles" by grant morrison adapted into film. it would be the sickest, the biggest drawback would be all the newfags thinking they were elite.
the worst.. sheesh i dont know.. english version of japanese comics are very often shit. bu i'd be hard pressed to pick a worst one.
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oh dear god yue! think of the RAIDS!!!
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huh, with the economy tanking and a huge war to pay for, I'd be giving mine back The last thing america needs now is a tax break.
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has anyone else noticed the start of a global recession since yue posted that code?
seriously yue, can't you use your elite skills for good instead of awesome?
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so your going to take over the world with that script right? those numbers are just place holders for economic factors and the second part of the script (again, deviously simple and deceptive) will trigger a massive global recession, right?
either way, when shit hits the fan, I'm blaming you and your elite skillz
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Just put some skids on it, or even rollerblade wheels down the edges of the wing. Slow down enough and touch down like landing a plane. Could be a bit dangerous for beginners, but given the ammount of fun... phht.
I guess you just need to figure out what kind of engine your gonna use and how your going to attach it.
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I imagine it would be a bit like surfing on top of a hang glider
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its been done ati, but it is very dangerous. the wind shifting.. getting tangled in power lines.. your gambling there mate.
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that is what you get for such a silly hat.
Possums can climb good
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Yue, perhaps you didn't realise. But if you put an engine on a wing, you could make an ekranoplan hoverboard.
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consent
not well
prevention
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ya cool, kite boarding is awesome.
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If i were uploaded and replicated, then what are the chances that one version of me wouldn't want to keep going?
A part of me will probably allways want to live.
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a description for those of us with blocked youtubes?
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My concern is not so much about offending people, I was using that as example for why the word would not become widely adopted. My contention is that you use it entirely too frequently and that a generic term is more likely to evolve.
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Ha! no, but fibs and I saw that live to air, we both cacked ourselves, fibs's mum thinks that kid is disgracefull, i think he's a legend
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personality.
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damn, I hoped no one would notice....
well, ok, number nine then..
I score higher on IQ tests than average, but that is only one kind of smart. I am probably street smarter than the average person, and a few other kinds of smarts as well. But everyone has their own kind of smart, or at least MOST people are smart at SOMETHING. having said that, I dislike people (not the individuals.. just people) and think that most of them are idiots, so its not that hard to be smarter than the average..
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RSS feeds: too specific. how about info feeds?
Deamons: that is certainly what they are but it could cause confusion, even amongst those that know what your talking about. the term adds an element of occultism and distrust, its your call if you leave it, but I can't imagine the term selling too well when it comes time to market the glasses. I suspect there would individual proprietry names for them, and that a generic term would be developed and probably shortened in everyday conversation. possibly an acronym? or how about just "bots"
"One of those loonies who refused to wear specs and protested outside the AI firms and ate health food."
how about:
"One of those loonies who refused to wear specs, protested outside the AI firms and ate health food."
Also, a clearer division here signifying which part is the memo. italics?
A question of motivation arises. I completely relate to this guy so far(he wouldn't be modeled on me would he? ), but I would not quit my job just because my work thought i was a looney, or rather, i would not quit strait away. Especially when I had JUST discovered the company ai could be insulted and had access to personel record files.. It had just said it had a "feeling", while this may be merely a term usefull for human interface, I would imagine an ai would use something more like; possibility, inkling(sp?), guess or supposition. I guess i'm just saying, your protagonist has expressed surprise at a system he expected no surprises from, his job is to find such incosistencies, both his professional integrity and curiosity are going to be telling him to stay. As an aside, what kind of ai has access to personel files AND the authority to show them to the personel they regard?
I suppose this could all be avoided by merely changing "ignoring the better judgment of some of his daemons" "to ignoring his better judgment, and the protests from some of his daemons" or something similar.
I suppose there is not much of a distinction between himself and the deamons, but the reader doesn't know that until a few paragraphs later.
"Since the FDA had collapsed in ’11" while I like how this helps establish the time period, I'd be cautious. Remember how we talked about future proofing? "11" could be changed to "a few years back" or some such reference.
I gotta say, I still don't get why she agreed to have dinner with him...
"One stopped as he went by. " huh? maybe its just me, but that makes no sense...
"He returned the gesture, and then she was gone, with a wry smile and a little wink." I think you should insert a mini-chapter here from her perspective, give us some insight into her psyche and explain why she agreed to date this morose widower.
"decided against switching his glasses to infra-red" hmmm, no full colour night vision yet?
"He slipped lower in his seat" perhaps "sunk"?
"An irritatingly vocal section of his brain was stuck wondering what she’d look like without her clothes on." are you telling me this wouldn't be one of the first things the deamons would be programmed to do? the minute specs like that, some bright spark will be turning them into xray glasses. all the measurements, minus the clothes pattern, make adjustments for support and constraint... Unless they are illegal, everyone will have that deamon, even if they say they dont in polite conversation.
". The ten percent that were released could handle a level of stress that would have left lesser minds gibbering." I immediately noticed the correlation between this and the %5 of humans that do not have a concience. productive but dangerous, the most capable of imitating normal human behaviour.. the psycopaths seem like the most likely to survive.
"He still had the radiation scars to prove it" i don't think you need the "to prove it"
"The cab made a horrifyingly sharp turn" I'm not too impressed by this whole sentance. firstly, the line proceeding it is the sadest and most poigniant line so far, which means this line has to be awesome. "Horryfyingly"? the guys was JUST thinking about his wife being destroyed by a nuclear weapon, there is no way a sharp turn is going to be horryfing after that. jolting, sudden, maybe even sickening(but i think not, same reason.).
and it continues... "around the corner next to his house, opened the door, and played a badly mangled request to have good morning " that is a mangled sentance.
"The cab made a sudden sharp turn that jolted him out of his reverie, rounding the corner it pulled up in front of his (adjective) house. Opening its door... " see where I'm going with it?
"He sighed, got out of the cab, and went home to await the morning." two things, you don't need to say he got out of the cab, and he is all ready home.
"Chapter Three" This is a good place to start a subplot.
"The liquid currents of the sky dragged wisps of clouds through sparkling sun. The chill bit softly, playfully tormenting bare skin and the threat of winter hung low in everyone’s mind." this is a sublimely beautiful piece of prose. I feel that you may want to rearrange a few words to achieve maximum effect, but I would not dare to suggest which.
"pot hung low over it’s brethren" quite a hangy paragraph this one ey?
"Silver streams of water, added at the top, ran down the stacks, finally being pumped back up to the top again, so the process could continue" you can come up with a better description than this. "added at the top"? seems too clunky, keep it beautiful like the rest of the paragraph.
"He entered the door," come now, need i point this one out?
"as bees, genetically stripped of their sting (there were no predators here)," unnessacary. "stingless bees" or "harmless bees" would suffice. the mention of predators conjours up their image where they would otherwise never be thought of.
"dew-covered tendrils around an unfortunate bee and cockroach" how about " an unfortunate insect". you don't really want people thinking about cockroaches, and the tendrils would likely obscure the exact nature of the insect anyway.
"In the peat moss at the bottom of the pot a small rat lay rotting" again, be less specific, perhaps "a small mammal" and perhaps "decomposing" or something less offensive than rotting. the proccess your describing is natural and even wholesome, but you might want to tip toe around the terms people find repulsive to keep the overall theme of the place.
"He moved onwards, pausing to select a ripened orange. He was about to move on" moving on...
"continued to arrive at their stoop regularly" am I missing something or should this be "step"?
"Harvesters pausing to follow him with their web cams." the "web" seems kind of obsolete, it seemed so with the cabs cam as well. what about "networked eyes" here?
"In the World, the sky burned like iron. He walked down city streets mobbed with people and things of all shapes and sizes. The buildings stretched to the horizon, and to the edge of the atmosphere. The streets were little more than cracks in a great sphere of steel and glass" I love this paragraph.
"She wore no make up at all" you know, the secret to a good make up job is looking like your not wearing it. I adore girls without make up, but I usually find they are wearing some anyway. A bit of mascara, a touch of lip liner. i don't think you need to change the line, its just something i thought of while, reading it
“Really?” she asked “That is odd.” I can't see her saying that. if she is interested in him, she would be excited, they get to meet up at work.. talk about work things together.. maybe shes in the social club.. If she's a spy, she is going to try and play down the coincidence, not point it out. something about hiring a lot of people...
"and she caught his indecision and said" needs an adjective.
"Tongues traded mouths." seriously, unessacary. long kisses have tongues... no need for the graphic detail.
"A billion-year old longing was rising in him, and a small, quiet part of his mind gave one last cry that this was wrong, and then died." good concept, consider rewording.
Overall, I like it, it is by far the best work i have seen from you and having discussed the eventual plot I can see where you going. I think the addition of a few paragraphs from her perspective would add a lot. the reader should know more than the protaganist, guess he is walking into a trap before he does and be shouting at him not to do it. Make the reader feel comfortable with their prescience, let them think you have given them everything and that they are oh so smart for figuring it out. So that when you finally do hit them with a real twist, they are blown away. There is just no way the girl is gonna go for him, its too unbelievable, people are gonna guess its a trap, especially if you keep dropping hints by having a part of him say its wrong.
If you keep up this standard of writing, you will have a truly excelent book on your hands. personally, I'd be thinking about some subplots and weaving them in. your guestimating it will be 150 pages, It seems more likely to be 200, but with some sub plot action it could easily be 300 and a full blown book.
love your work mate. i've said it before, but you will go far.
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Agreed fibs,
Based on what has been said, we know nothing about this island. It could be the size of Australia or little more than a reef, it could be inhabited or not. you could be dumped on the island or winning a prize, kidnapped or dumped in the ocean to wash ashore. Is an ipod going to survive a shipwreck? will there be lodestones on a sandy outcrop? will your GPS phone save you if your attacked before help arrives?
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Ati, you are unaware of any of those parameters at this point, you will discover later.
and person means human.
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personally, I'm taking a leatherman, the hugest roll of heavy duty clingwrap i can carry and the person...
well thats the hardest, I'd want to take fibs because i would miss her. but i wouldn't want to doom her to a desert island either... that would be the same story with most people i know, plus many of them would be more of a hinderance than a help...
Its a tough decission, ill sit on it for a while
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the plastic is totally multipurpose.
if you dig a wide hole, and then place a small volcano in the middle, and then put a layer of wrap over it, it will be water proof.
fill it with sea water and place a layer of plastic over the top.
place a rock in the center of the "lid" and it will sink down slightly.
leave it in the sun, sea water in the outer ring evaporates, hits the plastic, runs down to the weight in the middle and then drips into the central raised resevoir (volcano shape), the resulting drip off is now purified and drinkable. and as an aside you also have salt left in the surrounding ring.
the plastic can also be used to cover any shelter you are able to build, or two help in the creation of a sand igloo. It can also be used to create a waterproof raft. It can also be used as an air bladder for diving, or a water bladder for drinking. It also allows you to keep food longer. you could also use it to collect rain water. and it can also be used to asphixiate prey, or as a see through trigger line for a trap. it can be cut into small strips for use as string, and then plaited into rope. (not real strong by intself, but when combined with plant fiber it becomes very usefull. It can be used as a kind of clothing, wrapped around yourself to keep insects out. It can be turned into a net for fishing by simply putting holes in it and attaching it to some sticks
there are many more uses for it, but all ready it is a source of food, water, shelter and a means of escape.
the leatherman pretty much covers everything else you need. I'd be using the bow method for creating fire, carving some spears, gutting fish and general food preperation. constructing a humpee for shelter at first and then moving on to more advanced buildings if possible. It is worth noting that the temperature 1 meter below the surface of the ground is roughly the yearly temperature for theea, so I'd be digging my home into the highest ground available.
The person is still a tough one, i like ati's dog idea, but if we can take animals, i'd be taking a pregnant goat (preferably with twins), or some kind of homing bird.
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lets look at it this way greg.
if your shoulder is stationary, and your hand is moving at a couple of thousand miles an hour. what happens?
ok, well what happens if you stick your arm out the window of a moving car and it hits a pole?
There is no material in existence that could provide the kind of structural integrity required by those propeller blades. The whole question is completely implausible, but I'll muddle on through regardless.
the speed of light is 300,000 meters per second. so 1% of that is 3kilometers per second or nearly 11,000 kilometers an hour.
Space shuttles can get up to about 27,000 kilometers per hour. So by about 3 inches out, you are going faster than any human has traveled.
the helios space craft made it up to about 241,000 km/h, so by about 21 inches out, you'd be going faster than any man made object.
The fastest matter in the universe is that of a blazar, ( http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/01/18/universe.speed/index.html ) That very nearly reaches the speed of light, so that is the speed at 100 inches out.
beyond that... well the answer is that we just don't know. officially, you will never reach the speed of light, time will slow, and no matter how much propulsion you have, you wont get there.
But that doesn't mean thats what will happen.
Asimov put out a paper where he proposed a kind of wall, that seperated things that are going faster than the speed of light from all of us below it. So there might be things travelling a 500 times the speed of light, but we would be unable to detect them. If you think about that in the case of the blazar it makes sense. We can see blazars going at up to %99.9999999999999999999 the speed of light.. maybe once they get faster, we cease being able to observe them.. who knows?
for more information on travelling faster than the speed of light, I recomend this thread: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=34145
Anyway, thats not what you asked.
So, what does it look like at %95 the speed of light?
The answer is very simple, and in fact it is the same thing that would be happening down the entire blade. And indeed the same thing that happens on normal rotor blades. To see it, all you have to do is wave your arm in front of your face really fast.
Lets all do it now...
Thats right, it disapears.
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1.mostly.
2.that totally depends, are the strangers bad guys?
3.I don't think i oculd answer that until i'd been deaf for a while, but most of the methods of loosing your ability to speak are pretty bad.
4.Perception alters reality. Belief alters perception. There is no such thing as an objective truth. Given that facts are only ever collectively subjective at best, then yes, they can.
5.Depends on the assertion, the friend and the context.
6.Ha! thats a trick question. Parties aren't relaxing, thats not the point of them.
7.Evil is entirely relative.
8.I'd _consider_ just about anything, doesn't mean i'd do it.
10.Optomism is entirely relative.
Psychology - Posted By poss - Karma received: 2 |
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Afraid of being CAPS LOCKED maybe...
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turn off all the lights, lie down, get comfortable, close your eyes and breathe. Concentrate on breathing, just breathing, in and out.. over and over. relax, let your mind slip away.
I used to have problems sleeping, I eventually found that I was not doing one of the above things. Do not eat too close to bed time, no sugar of caffine at night and try to spend at least half an hour before bed doing something relaxing. Watching tv, listening to fast music or playing games are not relaxing, they speed up your mind and make it harder to go to bed.
if all else fails, I remember being tired, I focus on how tired i will be in the morning, how much i wont want to get out of bed.. how cosy it is.. how warm and snug and...
*ZZzzzzZz*
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initial idea:
While the idea is cool, wikipedia is unreliable enough as it is without the possiblity of deliberate tampering on route.
Privacy is screwed up enough without the cell companies keeping an itemised list of all my enquiry terms.
lets imagine this in a wartime situation, your soldiers are requesting identification and location information from a central database, recieving orders and making requests.. wirelessly.
So now someone manages to sniff the packets and crack whatever kind of encryption your using, they splice off the incoming and outgoing transmisions while remaining rellatively undetected. All they'd need to do is put in small ammounts of incorrect data in the right places and suddenly you have a total mission failure and massive loss of life. the wrong person gets identified and shot, the grenade is thrown over the wrong wall. advance is ordered instead of retreat. this system is not for military applications, I am allready dubious enough about the security of current (relatively passive) future force systems without including direct server queries into the equation.
In peacetime (is there really such a thing?) the problems are mroe subtle but still bad. How much information do you want known about you? not only that, but how much are you willing to pay? Your talking about being on a mobile phone call nearly 24/7, how accurate is your research?
Wikipedia may be unrelliable now, but lets say i am a businessman, I make a meeting with a senator. Just prior to the meeting I get my staff to edit a few relevant wikipedia articles, nothing major, just a couple of terms different, shift the overalll vibe of the page. I go to meet with the senator who is a busy man, he doesn't have time to prep for his meetings so he reliese on the system you've invented. During the course of the meeting he queries the key points I raise and answers knowledgably, a reasoned discourse, eventually he and I come to agreement. Without him ever realising that i have completely manipulated the conversation. The statistics and facts he used in his argument were chosen by me, the dangerous substance I WANTED him to buy, happened to end up looking liek the best option according to the information he pulled up himself.
If ever there was a way of mass editing history on the fly, this is it.
Even if we were to assume that you were using an encyclopedia that is not editable, you still have the issue of censorship. half truths can be worse than lies, and what does and doesn't get "remembered" can shape lives. This system ammounts to a collective memory, A memory that is either editable by anyone, or controlled by a few. Neither option is very inviting.
Also, the sociatal effects of such a device are massive. You say its the equivalent of having a degree in what ever you want, well I disagree. Learning is not about collecting facts, it is about making relevant connections over time. By spending years studying a subject you make neural pathways through repetitive exposure to certain thought patterns. A single exposure to such knowledge does not provide the intergrated understanding that actual study provides. Even so, I agree that is a major advantage. A life changing advantage, it could turn an idiot into a relative genius over night. And as such it is a massive advantage at work, in social situations.. everwhere in your day to day life. So how is this a bad thing?
I have a nice new mobile phone, it is schmick and can surf the net. except it cant. because i chose not to get a 24 month contract, my phone is blocked from the net. It doesn't matter how much money i give them, if i dont sign a contract, I can't have the net. for me, getting a contract is not hard, I have a stable job and earn a fair ammount. But for someone who is poor, has bad credit history or a criminal conviction, getting a phone plan can be much harder.
The system you are talking about would be just the same, it would have to be, it makes corporate sense to do credit and security checks. The problem is, such a system creates a new social class. It dooms anyone with security or credit problems to a life of stupidity and poverty. It also dooms everyone who uses it to a life without control over their memories.
No sir, I don't like it.
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Afraid of what? A teenage girl on the otherside of the planet who's mother makes her wear tights?
OooooOOOoo I am shivering in my boots! please don't hurt me tubgirl!
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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bah
old!
your a kiddlywink.
you may not be knee high to a grasshopper, but your not much over its shoulder.
Your in the prime of your life, and still too young to do allmost everything, wait until your actually old, until then you'll be getting no sympathy from me
you YOUNG and LIVELY one!
Bithday Shout-Outs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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I am going to look into incorporating this into some songs
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TMS looks like an imperfect science. I'm not convinced by it yet.
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Fibs and I had the most awesome new years ever!
My mates hired out a massive and gorgeous house on a cliff by the sea. We then proceeded to go rank. by the end of the night the place was destroyed, I mean, that shit had structural damage. The most intense array of people. if you can imagine a party with Hunter S thompson, Bhudda, Chopper and The entire cast of the Yellow Submarine, then you are starting to get somewhere near the party we had.
We took pictures and video galore, (at least 10GBs) we're in the proccess of finding somewhere to host them all. It felt like a revolution. It looks amazing. Fibs spent 15 hours under the impression she was inside super mario galaxy
The best video is where there are a whole crowd of people hanging out in the roof dancing and singing, jamming out. One of them is particularly spastic and sticks his head out into the kitchen, so a Cosmic Uno Sheik appears from nowhere and smashes a guitar over his head, splitting his head open and destroying a good guitar. So rock. Later, someone pours sun cream into his wounds and eyes, and he rubs it in, while emo kids make out in Mordor sized spider webs, models strut, musos Jam, performance artists go sick. And everyone is in love with everyone. It was the ultimate, it was Gurn Burn 08!
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Fibs and I got:
2 mountain biks,
Mario Galaxy for wii
samsung u700 (black) + 2gb stick
a huge set of expensive saucepans
villeroy and bosche bakeware
chopping block with expensive knives,
asorted kitcheny stuff like ramakins and a wok
a large tasty hamper
lots of awesome clothes
A delux 6 man tent
camp chairs
queen air matress
And lots of other cool things
All up we spent at least $3000 on presents, but I think it was worth it
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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metal? who makes a metal phone?
how much does that thing weigh?
maybe you'll need an angle grinder
Mobile Phones - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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lol nice plan, I am unfortunately nowhere in the vicinity
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phone plastic is incredibly gaytarded. A very sharp scalpel will slice right through it. I used to do this kind of thing for a living.
Mobile Phones - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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your taking 42.1 metric kilograms of von neuman machines back to change the course of history.
iguess the questions are, why only 41.2, and to what end?
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I don't get how the probe could be violated. nor how the mayans stand a chance of repeling the invaders.
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I disagree with the soldering iron, you could too easily damage components. I recomend a scalpel. score a groove repeatedly until you have breached the shell.
Mobile Phones - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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I think its about 2012
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Well I used to be an atheist, and a large part of my motivation was that I disliked being told what to think, and authority in general. With time I mellowed out into agnosticism. Lately I have drifted toward deism. I believe the universe is god, and that both concepts are too large for finite humans to understand.
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A Japanese sword made by beating metal flat and then folding it, you do this a couple of hundred times and eventually you have a sword that is sharp enough to cut strait through an english broadsword.
Most westerners wern't familiar with them until the rise of japanese pop culture like manga. There are also really big versions called dai-katanas, and they are much cooler imho.
Actually I gotta say that Pikes are pretty phat, japanese pikes were hardcore, pikes won sooo many battles, but they are allways overlooked as a cool weapon.
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The npcs you described would be incredibly difficult to write for.
In nuardine I attempted to make the npcs as interactive as I could, I don't know if you've ever written npc dialogue, but this is how it generally works:
It's a tree, there’s the initial greeting trunk, or multiple trunks if you like. Each of these trunks then splits at each decision into more and more branches. Lets the conversation is 5 interactions deep, and you can make 3 decisions each time. That doesn't mean there is 15 individual dialogue results. It means there are 3 to the power of 5 results. And that is just for one tiny little 5 step trunk. Developers usually get around this by limiting the real world choices by cross linking many branches to provide a limited choice spread, kind of like a choose your own adventure book. The reality is that your average player is only ever going to experience one conversational path anyway, so why spend so much time making a totally interactive conversation?
For the level of depth you are talking about, you would need the conversation to be 20 to 50 levels deep, and with as many as 5 choices each time. That is 5 to the power of 20 dialogue entries. Even with extensive cross linking, you are still looking at a massive amount of dialogue.
The best way to accomplish it in my mind, is to establish a singular centralised dialogue reservoir, with each response tagged for emotional tone and content, then you would just give each npc a script that outlined their personality (average mood and a couple of points about their situation.) Then their conversation could be randomly generated from a set of matching response tags. For example, lets say there is a dragon at the top of a mountain, all of the surrounding villages would be effected, and their villagers would all have an opinion on it.. Their actual dialogue at any given moment would depend on the time of day, season, their proximity, mood and outlook on life. So if the central dialogue database had a large listing of dragon related villager responses, arranged by each of these categories you could simply have a villager ai script call for the dialogue that matched the present situation. In this way, the tens or hundreds of thousands of dialogue parts needed for a convincing ai could be narrowed down to a few thousand responses and the amount of interactive npcs could be dramatically increased. To further reduce this number and give the illusion of individuality, you could also have a thesaurus function, so that individual words within commonly used phrases are randomly replaced with equivalent words.
If a quest database were similarly established then each npc could have a set of needs that changed according to their circumstance, meaning most villagers need eggs and bread most mornings, so walking up to just about anyone and asking what they need will allow you to complete a simple quest for a couple of coppers. As your fame and capability grow, new dialogue options become available, meaning new quests open. And as an npc’s situation changes, so do their dialogue options.
If cleverly implemented in the first instance, then new situations and updates could be introduced to the world easily and quickly, by simply adding to the quest and dialogue databases, and by updating npc status in a given area, you could introduce entire sections of story line across hundreds or thousands of npcs with relative ease.
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soley? surely there are other reasons for keeping them?
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Sounds like the hardcore d&d ruleset for nwn.
I had a similar thing in place in my nwn mod, nuardine.
In regard to teh family thing, I think that existing players should vote to have a child, this creates a list of potential children, a new player gets to choose their character from that list. the parents train up the kid and the kid gets inherentance. The parents would have to get something out of it. Like getting a bigger "guild" and being looked after in their old age.
I LIKE collecting the herbs, I like being able to get them aother ways too, but dont take my grass picking away from me.
Personally I dont like level systems. I think your skill in any given area should be determined by how much you use/train it.
arbritary level systems don't make sense to me, unless they are used as an age system. So at a certain age you are allowed to drink and buy property, and then as you get to very high levels some skills naturally decrease.
I also don't think people should get xp for doing the same thing over and over. the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
more later..
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I'm gonna smoke, drink, take chances and drive fast! Age'll have to work hard to catch this one
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You're welcome
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I think a position that would mix all of those areas would be Public relations for the government department in charge of heritage.
Developing brochures and promotional material for protected sites and places of historical importance.
for work experience in that direction you could contact your local council and see if you could do work experience with their PR people.
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he's hugged pretty much everyone, in fact, way I hear it told, he is pretty much a hug slut. you must smell.
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Marcus, giving karma just encourages them to talk more shit lol
I mean, look at me, I've got more karma than anyone and I talk more shit than anyone. there is a direct correlation. I'm like one of those street performers you have to pay to make them move.
"I am bender, please insert girder"
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As all ways, I am impressed ati.
While not in the same style as the original, the sterotypes served you well, even if they were a little too pointedly obvious at some points.
I'd suggest finding a simaly for morphine as it crops up regularly.
also, I was left feeling rather disturbed with the way holmes seems to have planned the death of the commissioner, or at least seems completely unperterbed at his death as a result of holmes' plan.
I suppose its your imperitive to do whatever you want with the characters, but i as a reader found it to be a disturbing jaunt away from holmes's usually reasonable altruistic personality.
Apart from a couple of spelling corrections, and the suggestion that you may want to establish that the narrator is watson earlier on. I'll give it a B
Not your best work, but better than the rest of the class
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take THAT "hug hug"!
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bah, thats bs.
Boys will go out with anything, as long as it puts out.
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I disagree with the Prime directive, If there was an advanced civilisation nearby, I'd want to know about it and learn. Why let us develop naturally when we are likely to just destroy ourselves, with a bti of help we could shave off hundreds, thousands or even millions of years of senseless struggle.
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I wouldn't do it.
A cure will be developed and it will be expensive, meaning anyone with enough money will still be able to reproduce.
It is just a method of neutering the poor.
There will be a pandemic sometime this century, surely it is those that are hardy enough to survive it that deserve to live on? Not simply those that are rich enough to buy children.
Philosophy - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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laptop, folding solar array, a minature projector and a couple of external HDD's all in a shock and waterproof combination locked box.
the laptop should contain information on chemistry, history, medicine, psycology, local geology, mechanical engineering, culture, maps, and realtime translation software.
additional extras would include a few sensors to establish a permiter, and a few bugs to monitor factional activity.
one 9mm with silencer, scope and a ten clips.
materials for producing simple vaccine, infact the ability to produce penicillin alone would be a massive boon.
night vision goggles with IR and map overlay capabilities.
First aid kit including anti-venom painkillers and loads of uppers.
Water purification device, and a poison testing device.
A good hunting knife (maybe a couple, since modern knives would be priceless to anyone of that time.)
If you have plenty of time to prepare, you will want to learn a number of things by heart.
learn languages, hypnotism, psycology (both individual and group), learn to read body language and lips. memorise as much social ettiquete and lore as possible. memorise biographies.
You want to know more about the people your dealing with than they know themselves.
I'm assuming I have government backing on this mission?
In which case I'd request a:
bulletproof ferro-liquid body suit (preferably with light distortive or invisibility capability)
a few insect reconaissence drones
A rechargable hand held heat ray (if they have them down to handheld size yet, i would even part with the 9mm for one of these)
I'd also ask for facial recognition crowd monitoring software.
hundreds of subaceous radio tracking devices, a lightweight foldable antenae and software.
A military developed rts tactical training game, usefull for teaching generals as well as running through simulations of real world conflicts.
weather prediction software, with minature associated sensors.
As for the actual method for stopping the invasion, it all depends on your objectives.
If we want to be efficient about this, the easiest way is to engineer a virus and a vaccine on site. give the vaccine to those you want to survive, and infect the enemy with the virus.
hey presto, no more invasion.
You could concievably even carry out such a plan with no interaction whatsoever with either side.
If you want to establish the natives as the domminant world force, then you teach them about engineering, mining, smelting, forgecraft, agriculture and military theory. Give them acurate maps of the planet and watch them decimate all other cultures within a hundred years or so.
The easiest way to control them would be to establish yourself as their god and then direct them that way.
Establish a core gaurd of devoted zealots
Monitor the activities of key factions and individuals by using your zealots to push their discussions into "secret" locations, and then monitor their discussions remotely.
buy the support of factions by giving them control of an industry within the new order
To conquer the world, do not focus on military actions.
Use trade and religion, local governments will bend to your will once their religion and commerce have been usurped.
Sell items that have great value but do not sell the technology to produce them.
Such items would include durable lightweight fabrics, sharp blades, good shoes and food flavourings.
Do not sell guns, and avoid lossing this tech to the enemy at any price. to this end, give your zealots limited ammunition, and where possible make the use of guns only possible with training. combination locks on firing mechanisms, that sort of thing.
Develop engines for your ships, but do not let the uninitiated see them.
Have miracles available on demand. i.e. projectors, speakers and the like.
to maintain loyalty among foreign officials, get them addicted to a substance that you control the production and supply of.
The critical aspect of this, and the greatest weakpoint, is the computer.
That computer has to be incredibly hardy and resitent to power surges, shock, heat and water.
I'd seriously consider taking a few handheld devices in its place. But the raw proccessing power would be indespensible later.
The software is critical, you will probably want video and photo editing, motion tracking, and a range of other things,
But the most important software is for plotting troop movements, overlaying weather patterns and real time data import. If your a god, you have to be as close to omniscient as you can get, the lack of satelites makes this harder, but not impossible
There are further measures, many of which depend on the particulars of the mission briefing.
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I'd answer truthfully any question they directly asked me. I may well be selective with certain issues if I felt they would be detrimental to their current state, but I would certainly answer any direct question truthfully (if not wholly) despite whatever reservations I may have about doing so.
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It depends on your taste.
Most people like earl grey.
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Ati, the rich would be more likely to clone themselves.
also, if the disease truly was incurable, you would start to see exclusive enclaves where the healthy reside, and an ultra elitist attitude toward breeding. With so few people able to reproduce, they would be drafted into constant and planned reproduction.
Also, 50 years later, society would collapse entirely.
the age distribution would be entirely unbalanced. with 100 elderly for every working person, there would be no way to care for such numbers, they would die of starvation and disease, by the billion. And you would be directly responsible for their death.
Designing a disease that makes people infertile is exactly as bad as designing one that actively kills people, you are simply delaying their deaths.
Philosophy - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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Yue, the majority of that is software or knowledge.
Here is an approximation on weights.
suit: 15kg
folding solar array: 7kg
laptop: 4kg (its phat)
Case: 3kg
Hdds: 2kg
gun + ammo: 1kg
projector: 1kg
First aid kit: 1kg
foldable radio antenae: 1kg
knives: 1kg
wireless battery pinhole cameras: ~10g each. x50 = 500g
insect drones: 100g x 5 = 500g
subaceous tracking chips
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shuzak ate half my comment!
(what kind of geek site doesn't let you use a less than figure?)
subaceous tracking chips: less than 1g x 500 = 500g
movement sensors 50g x 10 = 500g
poison detection device: 200g
water purification device: 100g
wireless audio bugs: 2g x 50= 100g
38.5kg
that leaves 3.6 kg for vaccine/virus propegation.
these figures are estimates only
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robot pirates would be cool, but robot ninjas would sooo beat robot pirates.
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So now the novelty has worn off, how often do you use it?
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oilaven, you were forced? please explain?
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I'm with daze on this one.
But for a less "intense flavour"
I like Peruvian Mate
And home made Chai.
And for everyday use, Vanilla Tea.
I feel each occasion has a beverage that i just right for it, so I am open. Sometimes a Mocha, sometimes a smokey japanese tea.
Fibs and I have a cupboard full of teas, we buy home made leaf mixes from the farmers markets.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm concoctions
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Steelcapped boot to the googlies. Thumbtack in each eye.
That'll make any man cry blood.
Seriously, you havent even tried dating someone yet. This guy needs to hear it from your boyfriend, possibly even a mildy threatening boyfriend.
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I dont know about your particular situation, So I'll just solve it as If you were me and hope it helps.
I'd plug the set top box into the wall and then into my laptops tv card.
I'd grab one of my beige boxes, chuck in a $20TV card and a $15wifi card.
Then I'd just set up a wireless network and stream the tv across it. then plug the tele into the box, and viola.
The laptop is handy because it has a tv card and wifi, but it could easily be replaced by another beige box.
I guess its probably not the cheapest or most elegant solution, but it would work.
Wireless Technologies - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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Myth TV
Wireless Technologies - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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Dugg for Ninja Jesus!
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Ninjas.
but why can't there be zombie vampire ninja werewolf pirates?
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MR WHALE!!!
welcome back lord bonkerness
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why annihilate when you could enslave?
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So, whats the verdict? how well does it work? how accuratly can it map multe points, and how many points can it track? Is it real time or is there a delay? are you just using a webcam, what is its resolution and do you think its sufficent.
How are you planning to translate this into VR? just pretend like you are still using a mouse? or write custom scripts?
does it work with an onscreen keyboard?
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Picture this
Late one night in 1942, all the world at war.
Sirens howl in Los Angeles, warning of an air raid.
Radar picked the planes up hours ago, but only now with the whole town plunged into a black out, and with huge search lights scanning the sky, can you see the aircraft approaching.
Nine Massive search lights illuminate a V formation flying in from the sea..
Gigantic anti aircraft guns situated all over the city pound out hundreds of shells, all targeting the aircraft in the spotlights.
All the might of the US military defenses bearing down on a small formation of aircraft, the shells destroy numerous houses and even kill 3 people.. and yet....
They didn't make a scratch.. not a single plane is shot down.
In fact.. are they even planes?
How can they be? No one can make out their shapes amid the smoke and flares, but they are completely un effected by the shells from the guns below.
Many people make out the hazy shapes as flying saucers
The aircraft eventually fly off, completely uneffected by the barrage of artillery.
The next day, a frightened city awakes, looking for answers.
The air force spokesperson calls it a false alarm
After an editorial in the Long beach independant stating ""There is a mysterious reticence about the whole affair and it appears that some form of
censorship is trying to halt discussion on the matter.""
The army came out saying that there were commercial planes operated by enemy agents
The thing is.
Years Later, declassified Japanese documents show that they NEVER sent any aircraft to LA.
In the end, however, there was no Congressional investigation; it was never clearly established whether there were objects in the sky, or what their origin may have been if they did exist.
No one has any idea what these unidentified aircraft were..
Sounds like a scifi book doesn't it?
But it actually happened.
Today, the official line is that there were no planes, that they had been shooting at nothing.
even though Two Million people saw the unidentified flying objects.
It is known as the "Battle of Los Angeles". And it strikes me as the kind of thing you would hear about....
Have a look for yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_coast_air_raid
letters between the military and president roosevelt regarding the incident, and the front page of the LA times the next day
http://www.militarymuseum.org/BattleofLA.html
A photo analysis of the "object/s"
http://brumac.8k.com/BATTLEOFLA/BOLA1.html
An article from the Reno Gazette 26th feb 1942
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/battle/ar78.jpg
And article from the Galverstone daily news 26th feb 1942
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/battle/ar95.jpg
More from the Galverstone Daily 26th feb 1942 w/ map
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/battle/ar92.jpg
Oakland tribune 26th feb 1942
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/battle/tn_ar17.jpg
The Lowel Sun 26th feb 1942
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/battle/tn_ar22.jpg
San Mateo Times 26th feb 1942
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/battle/tn_ar81.jpg
Another Article from the time
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/battle/ar21.jpg
Another headline from the time
http://www.maxwelldemille.com/air-raid/image002.jpg
A Japanese Official interviewed at the time
http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/battle/ar23.jpg
the San Fransico Museum even has a piece on it where the military claims the whole thing was caused by a weather balloon.
http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist9/aaf2.html
Radar, Air force personel, generals, gunners and thousands of people all mistook a weather balloon for a formation of aircraft?
Anyway, I have been kind of blown away by this whole thing, I'm just wondering what you guys think of it.
What do you think the unidentified Flying Object over Los Angeles was? what could possibly withstand that kind of sustained firepower?
Had you ever heard of the Battle of Los Angeles
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Here is a link to a video about it on digg:
http://www.digg.com/space/VIDEO_UFO_The_greatest_story_ever_denied
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just search for: UFO the greatest story ever denied
if you want that vid.. otherwise meh
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didn't get enough comments on your blog mate?
jk
I think it is something that will pan out with time. Too many variable factors to make a prediction. Sorry, could i be any more vague?
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ok.. so uh.. where are you?
Social Issues - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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21 inches is the sweet spot for CRT's. Go any bigger and your garuanteed to get ripped off. But your biggest problem is that CRTs are essentially dead tech.
My first step would be the same as otto's comment, I'd push you toward lcds, I believe either tigerdirect.com or newegg.com have 26" lcds for about $200US. Thats the best deal i've seen anywhere.
If you want bigger I'd say projectors, you can get HD projectors for about $600.
The problem is that most manufacturers have stopped making large crts, the market died for them so they all switched to LCDs.
It doesn't sound like your going to be convinced by those arguements, and multiscreening isn't going to work through a kvm..
So my suggestion is this:
Track down a second hand HD CRT TV, While there are some sites I could point you to, really the cost of shipping a crt means its only really feasible to buy one from your local area. Also, you want to make sure it has RCA Inputs.
Once you've got one, all you need is a VGA to RCA converter box, like this one:
http://www.cablewholesale.com/specs/40h1-50210.htm
Attach the vga end to your kvm and you should be right.
I *think* you can get a vga to hdmi converter, but you'd have to check that.
the reason im recommending a hd crt tv is that you a much more likely to find a second hand one than you are a crt monitor.
Good luck
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I have gotten much better since dating fibs, she can talk the ear off a dead mole.
I take my time in social situations, i find that most conversations arent that interesting to me. I generally zone out when people are talking about their latest funny coloured spot or their terrible work mate. As soon as the conversation turns to something interesting, like politics, philosophy, religion, science or current affairs, I am all over that conversation like a fat kid on a smartie. In fact, i generally have to hold myself back or i rant until everyone else falls asleep.
Random Stuff - Posted By poss - Karma received: 2 |
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why thankyou gringo, my member is rather well established!
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 4 |
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meh, I LIKE bluray, it is far superior to HD-DVD. 50gb vs 500gb. PS3 is by far the best nex gen console. In fact, i am about to buy one. PSP is better than DS, PS2 was better than xbox, and ps1.. that was a revolution in gaming.
Sony are an evil international company hell bent on market dommination at the expense of competition and its customers, So how is that any different to all of the other gigantic corporations that are fighting for our dollar votes and picking at the bones of democracy?
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I've said this before somewhere.
I think the singularity is upon us, in the sense that i don't think there will be a single point (as counterintuitive as that seems), rather i think there will be a series of events.. a sliding scale.
I am generally of the opinion that military technology is generally 20-30 years ahead of civilian technology. Given QB's estimation, that would mean full neural emulation was attained a few years ago.
I agree with zenmuffin, nothing we know indicates that our stream of conciousness is preserved through the transfer. Mind you, given that none of us have seen a working model, or the results, it is fairly meaningless to claim foreknowledge of a system dependant on uncharted technology.
I love toying with the idea of the storm worm developing sentience and attacking echelon, but a military developed ai is likely to serve its masters instinctively. Again, I sense a limitation of popular fiction here, it seems to me that the development of ai is not limited to the military. Infact, why couldn't it be developed by those that were largely to thank for the huge expansion of number crunching machines in the first place? banks. Who has more money and more motivation to build an electronic intelligence than those who run global commerce? wars and espionage are cetainly historical motivators for most advances, but those wars have been a means to an end. that end being financial domminance. So why develop a military ai, when you could develop a financial ai? A ghost in the stock exchange, a being who was born in the world of numbers, who can feel market forces and forsee stock futures.
What about an ai developed by the catholic church, they are the biggest institution on the planet. I can picture some shady sect, perfecting an ai. crafting a higher intelligence in an attempt to give god a presence on earth.
And that is assuming the ai is intentionally created. What if google writes an algorithm that is too perfect, that improves itself, that becomes self replicating, that becomes self aware.
What if intelligence is, as zenmonk and qb say, something more than the neural pathways. what if the internet gave birth to the ai? This primordial ooze of information, where sentiences fight and mate amongst the accumulated wealth of human knowledge. The souls/phsyces of millions of lesser intelligences, merging through some unknown proccess, through some random lightning strike into a higher intelligence. How can we say no electronic life could be born from this? when we dont even know how organic life began.
The possibilities are mind boggling. And, as I said, It may all ready have happened.
thinking about all this, i have an ominous chant resonating through my skull:
"Tiger, tiger, burning bright.
In the forest of the night,
what immortal hand or eye,
could frame thy fearful symmetry?...
...And what shoulder and what art,
could twist the sinews of thy heart?
and when thy heart began to beat,
what dread hand and what dread feet?
What the hammer, what the chain,
in what furnace was thy brain? ..."
Tiger, Tiger, burning bright - William Blake
Cognitive Science - Posted By poss - Karma received: 3 |
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Ati, our brains may cycle through cells, neurons die and are replaced, but never ALL of them. We live on with a part of ourselves incapacitated when a cell dies, the stream of conciousness if maintained.
To use your symphony metaphor: As I see it, our lives are not symphonies written on paper, but the performance of a symphony. In fact i'd say we are the conductor, and the events and people in our lives are the orchestra. We have one performance, and no matter if we are performing from a prewritten score, if the performance is recorded and replayed, or even if we play the same symphony again with the same orchestra, we are still just that one performance.
If i make a video recording of you and play it in 3d to your friends, the recording may be perfect, it may even respond to their questions, it may fool them completely, but the only person it wont fool is you.
We have talked about this alot ati, and while i remember your prediction being 25-40 years before cortex emulation is available to the average human, my estimation based on the same information was 50-75 years, assuming there is no great economic collapse (which actually seems very likely) during that period.
I, like the others, and in the face of the solutions you have so far provided, remain unconvinced that an individuals stream of conciousness and sense of self can be completly transfered to the emulation. I sincerely hope that I am wrong, as the prospect of my own immortality lies in the balance here.
The idea. The mere idea.
transferable and replicatable conciousness, existing in perfect syncronicity with clouds of self replicating nanobots. To dream of such things is to dream of being a god. The lure is undeniable, but for the moment, it is still a mirage.
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milady! i was but defending your honour!
lol nah its all good
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I disagree.
Physical storage is secure, no internet facing server is secure.
I might not buy bluray movies, I'll probably download them. but i will sure as hell back my data up on those disks.
the internet is a superior distribution medium, but it is a far inferior storage medium. read/write times will mean we will use solid state memory in our boxes, we will use high density media for storage.
It is not just download/upload speeds that are a limiting factor here, the difference between saving to the net and saving to your computer is cost. even at high speeds, 500gb is a lot of bandwidth, and that bandwidth costs money. google all ready gives me a couple of gig of online storage, so does microsoft, but you dont see me storing my mp3s there.
a) I am not going to pay for the bandwidth to download the same song everytime i want to listen to it
b) I don't want google or microsoft knowing how often i download each song, and i dont want them deciding one day that my data is their property and not letting me access it.
c) As dangerous as it is to say this: It makes piracy impossible. I dont mean stealing other peoples music, i mean pirating my own music, or my friends music. The stuff that microsoft decides is pirating, even if it isn't.
I can definately see where your coming from, south korea seems to be heading that way, but even they aren't throwing out dvds and hdds. online storage has its advantages, but it compliments more tradional storage media, it doesn't replace it.
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invent geek was instantly added to my favourites, thankyou otto
Cognitive Science - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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I want this to be true
that is what makes me so skeptical as to wether it is.
Mind over Matter - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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hmmm, I think i might wait until I'm a bit less lively.
I'd like to keep my present form for a while longer. I am not yet convinced that lasagne will taste as good when i am uploaded
Cognitive Science - Posted By poss - Karma received: 2 |
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as appealing as ati's plan for immortality is, it is just too dull for me.
I would take a HUGE ammount of drugs, sex, and music. record everything, at the last minute i would jump from a stolen love plane and plummet through the clouds in screaming hallucinatory bliss, ending my life without pain or regret in pure exileration and joy!
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HD DVD and BluRay are allready dual layer.
Your right, 50gb is an understimation.
using 10 layers on both sides of the disk, maximum HD DVD capacity is 300gb, blue ray is 500gb
thing is, 100 gb bluray disks are about to come out that play on current tech players. Whereas you'll need to buy a new player to play the 60GB HDDVD disks.
And when it comes to datastorage and game usage there is another critical factor
Bluray can transfer data at upto 53.95 Mbit/s
Where as HD DVD can only get upto 36.55 Mbit/s
All of this will likely become slightly pointless when players hit the market that can read both.
But I am just saying that blue ray is inherently better, and that because of this, the ps3 is a phat gaming machine.
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well that was a very uplifting post otto, it does seem to me that you are unlikely to find your car keys unless you seek them out
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lol, like I pay a cent for movies.
If bluray wins, I'll be buying black market knock off bluray disks and burning pirated movies onto them with a blackmarket knock off burner. (to the feds: I am of course joking)(guys: no im not) (feds: seriously, yes i am) (confused much?)
Screw sony, they can go fuckemselves up the rootkit. Seriously.
I am in no way supporting sony here, I am just saying that PS3. PSP and bluray are all superior products, even if they were born from the belly of the beast.
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I can move my eyes around, completely independant of each other. Like a chameleon.
I can play any instrument you give me.. to some degree.
I can smell mushrooms in the woods long before anyone can see them.
I am a walking encyclopedia.
I can twirl fire.
I can dance.
and I can fix all most anything, like otto.
I am a songwriter, I can write a song about anything.
I don't know how odd these talents are. But I am certainly odd, and seing as they are my talents, i think they qualify.
Oh, and i'll vouch for Fibs's amzing vocal talent. She is stunning.
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well yes otto, if the questions was:
"what happens when an unstoppabvle force meets an imovable object while they are both within the gravitational field of a black hole"
then i would agree with you.
But it seems fairly unlikely to find a handy black hole lying around everytime we try this out all though, trying it out, as you rightly state, is a fairly improbable task is the first place
So, in a piece of calm or "flat" space, with gravitational, electromagnetical and all other forces applying equally to both concepts. is the immovable object moved by the unstoppable force? or is the unstoppable force stopped by the immovable object?
Sorry i didn't clarify this from the outset
Epic Hero Battles! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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*slap slap*
kiss my girl will ya?
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no, I havent tried it, i'll have to check it out, thanks for the tip
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Ati, your a bean pole.
fibs and I tried a diet a couple of weeks ago, but I got sick of eating salad. I like variety. and honestly it comes down to this.
to me, life is not worth living without lasagne.
If there is ever a lasagne diet, let me know. im there.
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*lurks and gives karma*
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 4 |
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All righty! now we are into my field of expertise! lol
Here is my list of the top ten game series of all time:
Tetris
Mario (64 or kart)
Zelda (Ocarina)
Final Fantasy (the newer the better)
Warcraft/Starcraft (starcraft or one of the war3 mods)
Half-Life (start from the begining)
Grand theft Auto (San Andreas)
Gran Turismo (the newer the better)
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater (3 or wasteland)
Civilization (2 or 4)
but those are series, what you want is a nice short list of games that are going to eat your head. So here are 5 games that will devour your time
GTA3: SA
WOW
Oblivion
Diablo 2
Sims 2
These are the current best games. If you want to be up to speed, then you need to be hanging out for the games due out this year:
GTA4
Spore
FF XIII
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yeah the rest of us got here in either the first or second digg waves.
I am from the first digg wave, and yue was here before me.
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 3 |
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I had a mate who joined the army and is now (to the best of my knowledge) serving in iraq. We used to be great mates, he was a bit of a bumpkin, but i was just starting to get through to him when he up and decided to join the army. When i saw him again he was a completely different person. Brainwashed. i still talk to his sister, and she says the same thing. Poor guy, a waste of a good bloke.
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Well It was a nice stretegy, but if you were going to leak documents, you could of at least padded them out. You could have added so much incriminating evidence. just paste in a bit about his fascination with licking the arses of soccer players, maybe write a few lines on his converting to islam and his hatred of america. You could also photoshop a pciture of him, adding in a midgets penis.
And THEN you distribute it casually, as you just did.
Still, congratulations on being so sneaky.
Psychology - Posted By poss - Karma received: 2 |
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Ati, why weren't you signed in? I want to give you karma!
Mad Scientists - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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Most people act crazy because of the things they are surounded by. If he acts like this, you can bet his family and/or friends act like that. If you think there is hope for this guy, you can try spending time around him, exposing him to saner ways of behaving. Through doing this you could talk him into seeing a counselor or psycologist. Realistacally he would probably value having you as a friend than not having you at all.
If it were me, I would hang out with him, make it clear that i wasn't going to date him, point out why, and tell him I'd help him to fix those reasons. Its like one of those girly movies where they make over the freak. it can be your little work in progress, turn him into someone you dont totally hate, and you can bet he will find a girl and forget all about you. and who knows, maybe you'll turn him into someone you like being around.
But, if you are going to do this, carry some protection, like some mace or something. If he is unsavable he may try to try something on with you.
I obsessed over a girl who didn't want to date me when i was about your age, she did this, and we ended up dating. even though we later broke up, she helped me grow into a person that i liked and that other people could stand being around.
This is just a suggestion, and it may not work in your circumstance, but im just throwing it out there.
Psychology - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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On the other end of the spectrum, you can get aq restraining order on him. Allthough they dont actually keep people away, they do get extra harsh punishment if they do anything to you, and it allows you to use significant force when defending youself. If your going to go down that path, get some mace and carry your mobile phone on you at all times.
Just another suggestion
Psychology - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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Blogurt, we all make it up as we go along, thats the fun of it!
as for your arguement:
That is why you control commerce. You lend money to government through an institution like the federal bank, you lend money to industry, you lend money to the public, you lend money to the church.
And you charge them all interest.
Pretty soon your rich enough to do whatever you want. You don't need to pay for social services or wars, you dont need to pay for infrastructure or land. All you need to do is sit back and collect interest.
If anyone disagrees with what you say, just raise the interest rates or call in the loans early, no one can fuck with you. If there is revolution or war, you make money off both sides.
It doesn't matter which party is in power, it doesn't matter which religion is power. It doesn't even matter what the primary commodity is.
The only thing that matters is capitalism.
The only way you could be overthrown is if nothing has value, if everything is free and shared equally. So the only insurance you need is to ensure that everyone focuses on themselves. As long as people don't realise that they are all one, that individual wealth, ideals and power are all meaningless, then you will maintain total control. even if a communist state comes into existence, you need only sew the seeds of greed and corruption, and capitalism will emerge again.
This is how you rule the earth.
but that is not the question.
How do you take it over?
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Well I agree to an extent.
Personally I think artists should be subsidised by the state. In england, if you can prove that you are musician, and that you are actively trying to promote yourself, then the state pays your living expenses. I think that is a great idea.
People are allways getting upity about the poor stealing their money, dole bludgers and the like. But really, it is the military that are stealing your money.
I have far more use for the dole bludging artists than for those who make a living from killing in my name.
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If I were you, I'd date him.
I can just picture it, the moment you said yes
Poor blokes head would probably explode.
Or else you could allways date someone else, someone muscly. Then all of his hate towards you gets funneled toward the guy your dating, and worst comes to worst you loose a boyfriend you only dated out of convenience anyway.
Psychology - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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That sounds very much like the stategy of every empire in history.. and look how they all turned out.
Chinas standing army is larger in terms of troop numbers. But America has a massive advantage in terms of technological superiority and enhanced training. The weapons systems the US controls are absolutely devastating. Winning a war against america is not possible.
Training the army from a young age is a distinct advantage. America allready breaches international laws regarding the rights of children by having an enrollment age of 17. As you say, The younger you get them the easier they are to mould. But you don't get the same level of creativity.
Maybe this is just me, but if i was ruling the world, I'd want it to be a world capable of great intelligence and capability. Destroying that capability within my subjects seems like a long term disadvantage to me. *shrugs*
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Well that was a very brutal way of going about it.
The problems I see are this.
-Lobotomised people do not make good soldiers. You want your soldiers to be capable of responding quickly and accuratly to a wide range of circumstances, allowing them to outwit your enemies.
-Children do not make good soldiers. Despite their maliability and their capacity for horrific acts without remorse, they are weak and fragile. They can not handle extended marches under heavy loads and they are pitiful at hand to hand combat.
-Attacking the strongest army first will end in sure defeat. No little island of child soldiers is going to be able to take down the US army, no matter how well trained and supplied. The US has an army that is bigger than the next ten biggest armies combined.
-Military victory does not ensure control. The militaries of humanity believe they are in control, but in reality they are little more than pawns in the hands of commerce and industry. Your regime would be the same, industry does not care which side wins, Their selling guns to both sides.
Mad Scientists - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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why not just use the cyanide pill?
Philosophy - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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"I don't have much pity for the shiftless poor"
Really?
Why?
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*claps for zenmonk* karma for you my good man!
I showed those articles to many people, and feel they should be showed to many mroe.
Ati, I like it, it seems unlikely to ever happen. I also don't have much faith in constitutions. I see a situation where a war mongering state developes significant sway in your defense department, and then invade neighbouring states.
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Most of my favourite quotes are drawn from Benjamin Franklin and Oscar Wilde. Mr Franklin has hundreds regarding money, really not worth deciding on the best.
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I like the static induction, but i think ou would need the magnets as well, maybe we could include the static induction into a later version of the suit, but you'd really want to talk to some lawyers and doctors about the chance of the induced current creating a situation for arythmia to develop.
I like your thinking.
Give us more, but cheaper!
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I am right behind bryan on this one.
There is little to no difference between the two major parties. Getting either of them into power will not change anything.
From my point of view the entire electoral system (particularly in the US) has been hijacked, the only reason it still exists is to fool us into believing we have some level of control. To sate our hunger for freedom. In actual fact even the office of president of the united states holds very little sway in todays world.
The merchants own religion and government, no decision is made without their say so, and no party or country is in any position to stand up to them.
Even if a radical third party came to power and tried to buck off the shackles of the central bank, the gigantic debt america labours under has now ammassed to such a point that the entire country would be crushed under the weight of it.
The constitution is all but null and void, government is castrated and hogtied, dragged into becoming a facist mask for the inhuman and infinitely ravenous entities that are corporations.
This is not just about America, it is about all people everywhere. And the reason america is doomed is the exact same reason that it is a global superpower. America sold its soul to the central bank at the beginning of the century, and since then, the merchants have sent the US to war in the interests of their profits, and on the threat of debt.
It is little mentioned, that one of the primary reasons for the American revolution was to escape the central bank. and now america is again firmly under the yoke.
Neither party can bring themselves to destroy American prosperity to return its independance, they are the weakness and taint your founding fathers warned against.
"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power" - Benjamin Franklin
In short
watch zeitgeist, and try again.
zeitgeistmovie.com
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a couple of other points that come to mind after reading through your post again.
congratulations to you for attempting to unite the divided factions. But the division is planted deep in order to keep society from becomming concious of its predicament. The media plays both sides of the fence, to keep both sides irrate at each other. Directing attention away from the real threat.
So, perhaps we should ask ourselves, how do we overcome the media?
well, the airwaves are owned, and it has been declared a matter of homeland security. so setting up your own homebrew tv/radio station could get you shipped off to gitmo, or worse. The papers are owned, and while it is not illegal to start your own paper, no one will read them. only 15% of americans read newspapers, and far less than that read subvertive newspapers.
The internet. Now this is a pretty little pickle, it looks so attractive. So easy to feel annonymous and secure. but every packet passes under their nose, and you are never untraceable. So, as the climate becomes more and more oppressive, smaller and smaller things will get you silenced.
this is a small window in history, a small portion of time when we can still speak out online, yes we draw their attention, but unless we start looking like impacting on profits, they let us go. But this will not last. music and movies and games will not be free for much longer. the destruction of net neutrality will bring an end to our ability to surf anywhere on a whim. the window is closing.
So if you are thinking of some viral campaign spreading through youtube and myspace and facebook, good luck. You only have a few years left to do it in. And remember, the majority of your audience are brainwashed consumerist zealots, who will require a philosophical arguement of crystal clear and shining proportions to pry their ipods from their soft pudgy hands.
On top of that, any campaign you launch will be near-instantly copied and plagerised, it will be absorbed into mainstream culture, turned into a buzz word and used against you.
"it's all nations under the corporations
rebellion is absorbed because their selling the swords
so its taxation without representation
law is the paw of the beast, and war is the saw of teeth against tail" -Possum Hodgkin 2001
You can't start a revolution or a civil war, you will be killing your brothers, and the guns you use will be bought from your true enemy, just making them stronger.
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to my eyes it is quaint that so many still have faith that the contitution will save them, that the government could work if only the right people got in.
Let us assume a political party entered office who wishes to release America from the control of coroporations. How would they go about doing it? and how could they do it without destroying the american way of life as we know it?
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"Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner." James Bovard
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to start off, I do believe elements of the administration were aware of, if not involved in, planning the attacks on september 11th. And yes, I believe they did it because their corporate interests came before their social interests. I would love to debate the issue, I feel this thread is perhaps not the right forum. If you wish to start a new thread or revive an old one I would be more than willing to join you there.
the only other thing I will say is that if you wish to call me paranoid, i will simply call you naive.
From my point of view (and i am an Australian, so I am fairly detached from the day to day internal propaganda), There is more than one issue that unites republicans. If anything the powerfull anti abortion lobby is a symptom of a massively powerful religious movement. Currently they are putting significant weight on this one issue, should the issue become resolved over night, they would shift that attention to another issue. Maybe gay Marriage, maybe drugs, maybe terrorism. they have an endless list of topics to draw on. At any one time they choose the one that is most empassioned and can draw the largest emotional response from their congregations. The current furvor could be easily shifted. I am not convinced that "solving" one issue would actually make any significant impact on the larger political landscape.
Republicans, by and large, don't hate democrats because of their policies, they hate them because they are democrats. and the reverse is also true. As i said above, this division is an intentional distraction that is constantly reiterated, and even a compromise on the most divisive of issues will not change this.
"Finally, this actually plays on the fact that they can't agree on anything"
The two major parties are all most exactly the same. they are both center right parties in favour of big government. They have a few individual exceptions (such as ron paul), but those individuals do not have enough power to sway the parties from their stated line. They also have a few differences of opinion in regards to policy, but these are very minor in the scheme of things. It is not like either party is advocating any particularly progressive or revolutionary ideals. They are stagnant and cold. And in actual fact, the parties decide between themselves what they will disagree on. The "fundamental" division we see betwewen them is largely orchestrated, again, to provide the illusion of choice.
If any significant challenge to the status quo arose, key stakeholders from both parties would meet and with advice from industry and religious representatives they would internally decide what action to take.
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50 is fine i thought you mean 5 or 1.
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You agree that hands are important. So do you have any ideas on how to provide force feedback to your fingers?
What software are you using to map your movements?
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Well fingers are so sensitive, they require far more information to be tricked into accepting a fake reality. So you'd want lots of little points. I suppose for a first model just a couple would do. It would just be not as immersive.
Well, If you write up the scripts, and get them working, i'll accept your method. I will be very impressed if you get it working. In fact, I'll build my own suit just to try it out if you get it working.
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9th.. I am not too sure how J3n found out tho lol
looks like i may have a stalker
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I think you may well be on to something there
If the suit is wireless, how does it get power?
how do the copper cloth pads become sufficiently magnetic?
as you know electro magnets have a coil around a piece of metal, the force applied by the magnet is contributed to by the number of turns around the metal and the surface area of the poles. So I think your woven magnets are likely to be quite weak unless hunks of metal are still included.
So I suggest small flat pieces of metal, like thick coins, embeded into the suit. with coils around their perimeter.
To obtain a greater degree of accuracy you could use many small ones (to allow a consistent pressure over the skin surface) Interspersed with a few bigger ones (to provide more force). The thickness of the coins is something you would have to experiment with to figure out the right strength. But you may also want to consider using toroids.
Comercially available small magnets seem fairly capable of doing the job. for instance:
a 25x25mm sized magnet weighs 110grams and can push with 10kg of force. While a 35x35mm magnet weighs 250grams and can push with 18 kilograms of force.
These kind of forces are not enough to seriously injur people, with a proffessional boxer hitting with a peak force of 400kg-3000kg depending on the punch.
It would like being hit by a toddler
But it is enough to give the impression of force
An idea just came to me... the possiblity of sewing the coil into the suit so that it formed tubular solonoids around each limb and the torso. this would allow you to move the ferrofluid up and down, giving the feeling of movement. There wouldn't be any sideways movement, but it would still feel pretty cool.
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LOL
"fanny pack"
tehehehe hehehe fanny...
You know in Australia, fanny means vagina.
*hehmm*
*pulls himself together*
Well the bum bag(fanny pack ) idea sounds all right, depite the fact that they are hideously uncool. The downside is not being able lay down comfortably. To get around that, you could always spread the batteries through out the suit and have them connected to a power grid. I think giving the option to plug in is critical, as cool as wireless is, the battery life is allways limited, especially when the batteries are constantly powering magnets. No one like being pulled out of an immersive environment because of low batteries. So, If you have the option to plug in and play, and then unhook when the batteries are full again.. it would be sweet. That is how laptops work.
Your woven electromagnets may work, but it is really something you would have to experiement with. I just can't see them putting out enough force.. but if you can prove otherwise, good luck.
Now, for motion sensing, are you still thinking of tracking movements with a camera? I still think accelerometers are the way to go so far as motion detection goes. they just give a high degree of precission that video capture just can't match. I think thirteen wii motes and two VR gloves would give you absolutely perfect control.
2 x wrists
2 x elbows
2 x shoulders
2 x hips
2 x knees
2 x ankles
1 x head
Those thirteen movement points allow you to map the whole body with milimeter accuracy in 3 dimensions.
So, my version so far would have
a wetsuit
then the ferroliquid
another wetsuit
32 electromagnetic points. 13 accelerometers 10 batteries A whole mess of wiring.
Breathable heatproof padding
a Jumpsuit.
Then that plugs into the headset.
Now, I don't personally think having a wireless headset is feasible. Plugging a wire into it allows you to have a much better graphics connection, and you could also bundle in the power and a line for the headphones and magnets.
But i think plugging such a fat cable into the helmet is ungainly. So plug all that stuff into the suit, and then run power audio and video to the helmet.
I personally think that while the haptic feedback is important, the graphics will really sell this thing. both to you and to others. That is the main reason im not recomending putting a laptop in a backpack and running the whole thing off a backpack full of batteries. Graphics are key.
For my money, Id run two montior cables from the back of a PC through the suit and up to two TDEL's.
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argh, the links deid, so here is the wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_games
and Frank's corner
http://frankscorner.org/index.php
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and hey, digg it up!
http://digg.com/pc_games/Thousands_of_Linux_Games
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Jenn, if your still working in pounds, yoru the one who's OLD. Like stuck in the nineteenth century OLD!
thank you daze, no need to fear, i have absolutely no idea when your birthday is lol
Thank you yue! where have you been mate?
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Well I can see how your planning to get around the trig, and good luck to you.
As for your point on immersion, I respectfully diagree. The speaker magnets would not have to be very large to induce a sensation (we don't want to actually get hurt after all), and the wires could be sewn into/onto the suit, so you only notices one bundle of cords leaving the suit.
Imho having one suit that has everything you need in it is much more practical than having an entire rig. What happens if you need to move house? I especially think this is the case if you ever want anyone else to use your rig (selling?). keep it simple, and in this case simple means one suit you pull on and off and a headset. People dont want a speaker gun set up in their house that they have to stand inside. They would also want to be able to sit or lie down in the suit without losing sensation on every side of them. I also think that even if it did blow out to weighing 10 kilos, that is still not a huge price to pay for a full VR suit. I mean, my shoes, clothes, belt, wallet keys, they can easily add up to two kilos on any regular day. Add a large jacket with some full pockets and your getting close to the ten kilos. The thing is, it is distributed weight. With ten kilos spread over 32 locations, your barely gonna notice it. The suit might feel heavy at first, but after a month of using it you will build up enough muscle that it becomes a triviality. especially if you sew in some kind of harness so that the weight is distributed as evenly as possible.
Looking at your sound solution, How do you make the sounds emited by the ghost body inaudible. Oh, i just thought. Why not make the sounds sub audible. Then you don't even need the second SL sinstance. And really, the frequencies you'll need for force feedback are probably sub audible anyway. Easy!
Im just wondering, have you given any thought to fingertips?
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calibrating parabolic dishes to respond to precise triginometry looks overly complex to me. I do however very much like the speaker idea.
here is a paper where they did something similar to what your talking about
http://www.interface.ufg.ac.at/christa-laurent/WORKS/PDF/ACE05SommererREF.pdf
I like the idea of the scripts, but i again don't think they will be as simple as you plan.
What i would do is to attach a head of electromagnets (speakers magnets are good) to the outside of the wetsuit
I'd then run each to a light controller.
Have your little SL script assign a different sound frequency for each part of your avatar, and make the volume a measure of how hard your hit. then have the light controller software send a signal to the relevant speaker magnet when the frequency is played.
Light controllers can be picked up fairly cheap second hand, or if your really keen you could make one yourself
Of course you'd then have to find a method of cancelling out the generated sounds so you could play the game and still have regular sound without being interupted by beeps and squeeks.
After a bit of searching, i found a much cleaner way
use one of these: http://cubloc.com/product/01_03cubase64m.php
that will give you 32 12 or 24 volt outputs, plug them all strait into your suit attached speakers.
Your only problem then is getting your SL script to send data OUT of second life.
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create a set of animation overrides for each limb,
I can see how this could be considered simple, it is still at a huge ammount of work, but compared to the other two its a walk in the park.
write a tracking program for the webcam to detect motion,
My great respect for you keeps me from replying with complete incredulity. Entire games have been made with this premise (eye toy), they took years of developement by large teams, and still did not come out very acurately. It is easy to see that there has been movement, you can even generally tell how quickly that movement changes, but there is certainly nowhere near the degree of acuracy required for controlling an avatar.
another approach to this problem is the one used in motion capture movies. But developing that kind of software from scratch is nigh on impossible. and even if you used premade software, you are still only mapping the movement of a few points, enough to show where your limbs are, but not enough to determine where your fingers are.
and set up a script to trigger keyboard input synced to animations in SL.
now this one i am complete doubtfull of. How are you capturing your finger movements while still moving your arms? I have seen those projected keyboards, and they could work if you didn't mind putting your hands in one place to do so. But if you want to be actually able to manipulate objects, you want to get two of the gloves glove-pie was written for. And if your doing that you may as well use wii motes for the motion sensing. im talking about having them attached to your elbows wrists shoulders hips knees and ankles, and one on either side of yoru head.
What would allow you to move however you wanted without being limited by what the camera can pick up.
For instance, lets say you want to do some martial arts moves. There is no way a camera will be able to pick up the level of detail required or sample at the speed required. you need accelerometers.
As another suggestion, have you considered using large electromagnets instead of the rubber bands?
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its the tony ferguson diet, its great, i get to eat as much as i want (as long as its vegies or jelly) and i lost 3.6 kilos last week
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Lol thanks Jen! and no, I do not have any wrinkles! In fact, due to this new diet, I am slimmer and fitter than i was before!
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Allright, I was keeping this idea for myself, but seeing as how i sont have enough free time to do anything with it, I will give the idea to you. But.. I want a cut of the profits.
The motion sensing is really very simple ati.
Wii-motes.
for cheaper than $10AUS each you can have triaxial accelerometers specifically calbrated for interpreting human movement.
The program you then require to interpret those movements is called "Glove Pie"
And i would then use "Ogre3d" to script up your virtual reality and then "Dutch Pipe" to connect yourself to the net
Done.
Thats if you want to do it all yourself.
In actual fact, If you got the rig working it would probably be worth approaching the "Planeshift" developement community in regards to intergrating your glovepie bodily control scripts into ingame movement. If you wrote your glove pie scripts so they were stable, and made up a fully scripted avatar, I am sure they would let you run around in their world.
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Really the biggest problem is not the suit. As you have shown, that is doable on the cheap. (oh i forgot to mention you'll need a usb blue tooth dongle) Even hardware is not so much a problem now, All tho you will really want two 8800gt's running in SLI for really fluuid movement (you'll see why)
The big problem is the scripting.
Firstly writing the glove pie script is not hard, but it is time consuming and takes alot of trial and error.
Secondly the force feedback is a whole nother world of scripting that I don't want to touch with a ten foot poll. I mean you'd have to write a custom script for an advanced game engine so that it registered hits to individual body parts and then output relative force results to one of the multitude of elecrtromagnets in your array. Not to mention the drivers you would have to write from scratch to allow that to happen. While we are on the topic, what hardware are you planning on using to control the electromagnets with?
Thridly, True VR is not as simple as a screen in front of your eyes. You want two screens that are a couple of degrees out of sync with each other. Which again means rewriting the game engine so that it outputs two slightly different camera angles simeltaneously (hence the two fat videocards). Again, not fun. and again you would probably have to rewrite the video drivers to allow this to happen.
You are talking about countless thousands of man hours of work to finish all that scripting. You'd need to be running a full scale game company to pull it off.
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When I was looking into this, I was looking at making a full body comerical VR rig for under $2000. At that price you could sell loads of the suckers. But the problem was the software. Even when i raised $20,000 of capital i could see it was no where near enough to pay for the developement of drivers and software.
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as for the suit. I'd buy two wetsuits and wear both of them with the gel in between them. Much less gooey and far more reusable. Infact, if you sewed them together in a crosshatched fashion, you could keep the gel from sinking to the bottom. I'd also be using a PDA with a good gfraphics input. So you could use it as a monitor for your regular computer.
Also, the motion detection is not a good solution, think about it, when your arm is behind your back, how do you map your elbow?
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I don't give a fuck about security.
If we spent half the money we spend on security on aid, we wouldn't have to worry about security.
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mmm smoking gods stash... yue, i like the way you think
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congrats han han, now you are slightly less midgety
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I'll start with one i wrote today.
"Growing old is moving from when you hold up your clothes, to when your clothes hold you up."
-Possum Hodgkin 26/11/2007
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that looks like eight questions to me ati but definately some good ones
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Indeed, I am well aware of Aspberger's, I know people that have it, and i believe many more to have it to a lesser degree. I remember reading an article on the high incidence of Aspberger's in silicon valley, especially amongst the programmers.. It seems to be linked to genius in some strange way..
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aw shucks! thanks Zenmonk!
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I like the pie,
we live the pie
hurry up the pie!
-poetry by bob of weeble and bob
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you know, that is actually part of the reason i have so much karma, Josh hacked shuzak and gave himself, lacey and I about 500 karma each I told Jawad, but he never did anything about it. So by all rights, Ati should be about 250 ahead of me
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I wonder, will the new site include past shuzak content?
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thats pretty screwed up Tyler...
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In other news, the ministry of truth has started distributing soma...
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First my moral indignation:
Why should she be expected to alter her clothing choices to avoid arrest?!
And now to your point.
Highly intelligent people often have woefully poor social skills. I don't think it was lack of intelligence that got her detained, but lack of street smarts.
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emo much?
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illegal prostitution just results in poor conditions for sex workers and clients.
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Digg makes me feel like the world is interesting. Most newsites are boring, they make news feel like something that has happened, digg makes it feel like its happening.
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just as there is a difference between fists and swords, and between swords and bullets, and between bullets and bombs.
So why choose biochem weapons as the cut off point? why not draw the line at the difference between words and fists?
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but a house on stilts....
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My personal opinion is that Iran is one of the few countries in the world actually standing up to America. I don't like their methods, i don't like a lot of their views. But when someone tells the US government to get stuffed, i develop a soft spot for them.
When we get war-sick of Iraq, Iran will step in and take over where we left off. They will kill countless innocent people, just like we have, and they will institute a puppet government, just like we have. But at the end there will be a stable Iraq. Something that won't happen under the rule of military contractors.
If the republicans win the next election, we will go to war with Iran. I suspect there will be a terrorist attack, made to look like Iran did it, or maybe they'll just trump up some breach of international law. It's not really like the US needs much of an excuse anymore. Now that the precedent has been set for pre-emptive strikes, just about anything could justify a war. As far as terrorist attacks go, If there was one before the upcomming elections in both Australia and America, i would not be at all surprised.
These wars aren't about politics, they are about commerce, the US government is largely a puppet of industry, a gun for hire. America declaring war on Iraq just creates a pretense for private corperate armies to go in and secure natural resources for commerical exploitation.
This agenda fitted in well with the strong religious views of the republicans and allowed for the tightest and most obvious co-operation between government and industry that we have yet seen in US politics. The bible states that God's chosen must hold jeruselum at the end of days and many christian extremists take this as a divine order to protect Isreal. And their willingness for war may well turn the end of days into a self fullfilling prophecy.
Wether Iran gets invaded or not, largely comes down to the commercial viability of Iran's natural resources combined with the level of threat posed by Iran to Isreal. If Religion and Industry say go, America will go.
There is another distinct possibility looming here. If the US does not act quickly to attack the emergence of Iranian nuclear capability, they may not have a choice about wether to attack or not. This in itself may be the strongest motivating force for the invasion of Iran.
As for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, he is the president of a Religious state, and while he does not want to anger International Industry, he can not abide by Christian Imperialism. His country has very little divide between religious and secular forces within government, so in a very real sense, his nation is Islam, not merely Iran. Wherever Muslims are killed by Christians and Jews, he feels the sting. In that sense we have all ready invaded his land, by attacking Iraq.
Ahmadinejad has done a lot of good things in his time, helping out the poor, loosening hijab laws, and so on.. but we will never hear about that stuff, because he is the enemy. And don't get me wrong, he has done some bad things, Iran has a shocking human rights history and he is incredibly anti semetic, but he has repeatedly tried to talk with the US administration and they wont have a bar of him.
As for the nuclear thing, how are we meant to stop nuclear proliferation? There is a black market for everything, eventually someone stupid enough to use one will get one. Why do we think that governments, even our own governments are any less stupid than any other group?
Nukes are terrible horrible awefull things, but once the knowledge is released, there is no stuffing the genie back in the bottle.
long term (and i mean thousands of years from now), nuclear will be our only option. In the mean time, there are more than enough other sources of energy. No one needs nuclear for anything except medical reasons, and for that you do not need the same grade material. Nuclear is not needed, anywhere.
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so what if you just walked around everywhere on stilts with spikes in them, so you just dig into the ground and avoid being toppled.. jsut walking over them all. And if the crowd got too dense, just pull out the snow shoes and walk on top of them all for a while.
good thinking no?
i wonder why they never do that in zombie flicks
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can zombies climb trees?
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Yeah, I i know they are meant to, but i dont trust them for quids.
The island is a good idea, I'd be up for that. I reckon a rotting zombie would attract a lot of sharks well before it got near you.
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If we were truly faced with a superior enemy, their power would be so devastating as to make a full scale war an unacceptable option. Our armaments are so horrific, that anything that exceeds our own capabilities, is.. armegedon. Full scale war between two powers as great as the US can not be allowed. I point to the cold war and mutually assured destruction as evidence of this.
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as zenmonk said, it has been done allready, and to my mind was at least partially responsible for the downfall of shuzak.
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here is a CNN article on the rally in Jena today
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/20/jena.six/index.html
and here is the wikipedia entry on the issue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_Six
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but shuzak is btoh.. and you use it
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we've had voice mimicing software for years mate
proving that a crime was done by an android that looked like you, had the same voice and fingerprints as you... that would be tought.
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damnit! another link that just links back to shuzak! this iswell lame
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Nothing is impossible to crack. And the possible consequences are horrific. How easy would it be to frame someone?
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No way deadlock, I'd stay in Australia. Huge empty land, nothing and no one for hundreds of kilometers. I'd camp out in the Olgas and set up perimeter alarms. If a huge swarm made it through hundreds of kilometers desert and rock, I'd just leg it.
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seriously, the best defense against zombies is to not be near them, staying in a city is certain death. Eventually you run out of food or ammo, or they make it through your defenses somehow.
Get out in the desert(preferably an oasis), you can see for miles and there is nothing to feed on, so the zombies dont come out.
Oh, and make sure you are nowhere near a nuclear reactor, without maintenance it will only be a matter of days to weeks before they meltdown.
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I imagine what really happens is that the cue ball exhausts all of its force into the 8 ball such that the cue ball momentarily comes to a stop, then the 8 ball imparts the energy back into the cue ball, which then bounces back, or ricochets in another direction.
Sounds like the force momentarily stops before changing direction
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you think it devalues their accomplishments? surely it makes them more valuable, in that a being that is concious of every atom in the entire universe chose to invest its energy in them rather than any other person on the planet, let alone any other planet in any other galaxy. Sounds pretty special to me, pretty unlikely odds. I mean, thats a pretty valuable accomplishment
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start a new account maybe?
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So why do you hang out in these places, and why are they better than shuzak?
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Does shuzak have a goal?
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nor would we want to!
well.. maybe just for a little bit
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I'm REALLY digging that song "thou shalt all ways kill"
sooo funny its the new sunscreen song !
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no! please do Gadget! we could do with a good controversy!
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I don't care what anyone says, chuck norris is the gayest retard ever to have infected television, and television is pretty disgusting to begin with.
I have allways hated chuck norris. "texas ranger"? that title sums him up, idiocy and violence. Now Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee, that i can understand, but Chuck Norris is the most pathetic action hero ever.
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reowr! you really hate god don't ya ati?
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bleh!
I can clearly see the "joke" is rooted in irony, but it has elevated into cult like worship. Just as it has with "the hoff".
I am not blind to irony, I just know that if you repeat something often enough, people begin to believe it.
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Or be visited by yourself.
Gives alot of room for impersonation. I hate to think what personal information could be accumulated by someone who looked just like me.
Thanks for the link ati, that linking back to shuzak thing has been happing to me alot lately.
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so your saying the force would stop?
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I've been on Flyff, digg, slashdot and facebook.
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Well i think we are all inherently biased by our surroundings, and someone raised as a catholic is more likely to turn to catholocism when looking for answers. Having said that, it would seem that the act of looking for answers tends to leave people open to all possibilities, which path they take is still influenced by their environment and history, but they still seem more open minded once they are ready to be taught.
And as for letting go of the map:
We are dependant on our learnt behavious to allow us to learn new ones. so while holding onto a stagnant map may be counterproductive. Holding a map, but allowing it to change and update is definately helpful in keeping track of where you are and have been, and more importantly, in helping you to determine where to go next. Other wise you end up in walking in circles, or worse still not walking at all.
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Glenn, I don't think Octopus require opposable thumbs, all of their limbs are opposable. I agree they are very intelligent, but I think cuttlefish have the edge over them. The cephalapods definately have my vote, but as you mention, their short lifetimes is a major obstacle.
Also, I wouldn't completely rule out mammals, If only humans were to disapear, its possible that other primates would evolve to take our place.
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If you like this topic, have a look at this graphic timeline of the earth without us
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jen cries?? i'm the one whos hair is on fire!
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I like jamming, I hang out with my mates and play some tunes, its great. If someone came up to me and said "make money by Jamming" I'd be interested, but if they then said, just stand on the street corner and people givey ou money for jamming...
Well thats not the same thing anymore.
If i am jamming for money in the street, im not jamming, im busking.
If i'm clicking on ad's for money, im not surfing anymore. I'd practicly be a click whore. My click is precious, it is my time, and that is why advertisers are willing to pay for it. As soon as you start getting paid to perform an action, you are working, not surfing. And as far as work goes, a few hundred a month is pretty pityful. I work on a computer all day, i get paid to click and type. And i make hundreds a day. There is no way my severely limited leisure time is worth trading in for a few bucks. In fact, as i have said before in this thread, i would pay money to have more leisure time.
I suppose if you are not working, have a lot of free time and unlimited net access, this may be for you. But I charge way more an hour than these guys are willing to pay.
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Immovable relative to the unstoppable force.
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It is interesting to note that the concept of god that America ascribed to has changed since the early days. Some of the founding fathers even considered themselves to be deists. Under deism, one nation under god could mean just about anything. Today, it is a judeo-christian god and the president basically decides which god is meant to bless america.
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If everyone agrees it is spam, it can be deleted.
If anyone thinks that these posts are not spam, please speak up. I would Personally like to hear from our new rich friends.
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Well I think it would be better if you defined object for yourselves
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Topics that reference an article without providing a link are now being deleted.
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As a moral absolute, No.
Having said that, there is a distinct difference between concious deception and merely not revealing all the details. It is impossible to keep all people informed of all things at all times. Individuals should be able to decide what matters they wish to be aware of and be given the ability to source information freely, unless that information is likely to have a tangible negative effect on other individuals.
Determining negative effect is very tricky, and is the point at which most administrations falter.
To sum up, while the proposal is morally objectionable, the opposite is physically impossible, and so a balance must be found.
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so where is the science homework topic jen?
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Jamie T, Modest Mouse, Jimmy eat world, Hilltop hoods, Saul Williams and lots of legendary bootlegs from all the classics.
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meh, im not inspired by intellectual coffee. im giving it a minus vote.
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oh its for sale, i allready checked
we just need to make an offer
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fibs and i talked about it, and we both like terminatorslinky
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*stomps on zen*
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theres a new project now?
oh and where in the hell is Jawad?
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for geeky names:
g-e-e-k.com
grey-matter.net
brain-food.com
brains.com
scholar.org
as for a social networking site, i like
network.us
but my personal favorite is:
boff.in
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well j3n, you know how the song goes...
"she'll soon feel much better as soon as we get her so cider inside her insides"
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so you make, what 10 cents a day and have to look at tonnes of crap ads?
I'd pay 10 cents a day not to have to see the adds.
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illegal porn leads to black market porn.
Bring it on!
i'll make packet downloading porn from some suckers unsecured network through tor and then selling the burnt disks on the street.
"they dont gotta burn the books they just remove em"
-Rage Against The Machine
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I feel like rephrasing my statement.
dylan is an idea,
floyd is an experience.
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its worth pointing out that while australian politicians are all for stoppping regular aussie adults watch recorded human mating, prostitution is legal in the Australian Capital Territory. Indeed, one can find numerous brothels and sex shops within a few kilometers of parliament house. In fact, not only porn, but pot is decriminalised in Canberra. So while a poor black man in the northern territory cant even spank his monkey, John Howard can legally screw the living daylights out of three transvestite prostitutes while smoking a 10 gram spliff.
Australia is definitely one of the most racist countries on the planet. South African apartied was actually modelled on the white Australia policy.
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You can actually buy zelda outfits if you've got the cash, otherwise cut up soft drink cans and cardboard.
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no it just means you'll end up going to geek hell
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bah, chatless! now why do i still come here? oh thats right.. i dont.
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I attempt to follow all except 07 or 09.
do we have to start wearing penguin pendants?
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Are you asking if we agree with this formula?
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i don't think logical consistency is really the be all and end all, plenty of things happen without a perceivable logical explaination, while it is while looking for reasons, it is sometimes nessacary to just accept things as they are and get on with life.
I can see the logic behind listening to britney spears, i can even see why some people would like it, it is produced with scientific rigour, using chord structures and lyrics that directly apeal to our base instincts, but i will never understand why people like it. Even if i felt their mind experiencing it, my mind still wouldn't like it, and just because they completely understood my motivations, doesn't mean they would stop liking it.
On a side note, you guys should really listen to "hit me baby one more time" backwards, particularly the part that says "im out of my mind, give me a sign", it is the clearest hidden message i have ever heard in any song.
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it might ati, but it might also take alot of the fun and mystery out of it.
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agreed
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wb
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Thankyou for this video my friend
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your a foolish optimist
you asked for it
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I'd agree to his terms and then arrest him as he left the country.
I'd then make him spend the rest of his life as a slave to the families of those he killed.
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I'd take your cat to a vet. Seriously, even if se seems well, who knows what unknown illnesses she may have developed.
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I have limited time, so i will keep this brief.
I have had some absolutely shocking room mates. from a stinking gay midget who locked me in a closet and spied on me in the shower, to junkies (one who locked me in an apartment for two weeks), psyco's (i have been stabbed and chased and burnt, ive had doors thrown at my head and been thrown off balconies) and wierdo's (government agent, conspiricay theorists and religious nutters) to a really nice girl who stole $11,000 from a group house and skipped town.
I've seen it all. So here are some really simple rules.
Do not lend anything to anyone, no matter how good friends they are. Tell them it is a gift from your family and means alot to you. With power tools and appliances, offer to do the job for them, or at least supervise. It is easier than the alternative.
Do not ever lend money. It doesn't matter who to, people are inherently selfish and will very rarely pay back money they could be spending on themselves. This applies to bills and rent too, it is better to have the electricity cut off and have to find another house than to spend all your money supporting them.
get a bar fridge and never put your food in the main fridge.
Do not put bills under your name.
Do not get too emotionally close to room/housemates. If things turn bad, they will use all your private details against you. And you do NOT want to end up as their psycologist.
Do not eat food other people have cooked. It may look good, but it is not worth the risk (and there are risks galore)
Use caution at all times, it is far better to be seen as no fun than the house bank or emotional punching bag
While it is possible to be friends with housemates, it rarely lasts, and is often disastarous. Better to be friendly but distant. their problems are not yours, and vice verse.
hope this helps.
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You would be sued silly if you did it. Proprietry systems exist for a reason. Market dominance.
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personally, i think the typical grey alien, looks like a hyper advanced human. Possibly people from one of the many possible future streams.
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"did you exchange a walk on part in the the war, for the lead role in a cage?"
-Pink Floyd.
I love dylan, but none of his words have echoed in me quite like that line has.
The way i see it, dylan crystalised ideas into forms. Pink floyd Expanded them into little realities. I've listened to them both on acid, and floyd wins.
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I'd put you outside.
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Keyloggers cant record the screen keyboard. But the information about keystrokes is still passing across the network, so it is still traceable.
One way or another, whatever you do anywhere on the net and from any workstation is being at least automatically monitored by someone or something. There is no such thing as internet annonymity anymore.
As for your work situation. Eventually it becomes a tit for tat war of the methods, you can keep escaping and they can keep watching. It comes down to how motivated they are to watch you and, as Zen said, how ethical your admins are.
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no, thankyou ati.
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I like all three ideas
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count me in
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well we dont KNOW they are not connected
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i'll KNOW you Joe!
you wont KNOW what KNOWed you joe
its like one of those old school batman terms.
BIFF KACHING KAPOW KNOW!
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You would find some fossils of homosapiens, but how many of those would fall within the 10,000 year timespan of civilisation? you'd be most likely to find remains such as those at pompei, but unless you found modern technology or cities perfectly preserved by some cataclysm, your unlikely to find much to indicate society.
65 million years would leave very little left where new york now stands. the buildings would degrade and wear away, metal will rust and degrade until it is unrecognisable. electronics will be gone, roads will be gone. Only in isolated sites in special circumstances will anything be left.
65 million years is an incredibly long time, our buildings will only survive a couple of hundred of years in their present form, perhaps a few hundred thousand years in any identifiable form. plants will grow over cities, everything will degrade and decompose.
What do you think will be left?
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whats are the half lives of plastics? and how long until satelites orbits decay? how weak will the radio and television signals be? especially since anyone looking for them from earth would be listening to feint reflections from objects 32 million light years away...
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i can see that angle Ati, and there was definately that element about the entire movie. The grandpa did teach her those moves tho, and watched her perform them hundreds of times. thing is, he wasn't really a sleeze, so it wasn't very obvious. But that doesn't change the obvious enjoyment he got from watching his underage daughter performing sensual moves.
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Totally agree ati, Rye, life has been around for so long that whole civilisations could have risen and fell, complete with buildings, farming, language and tools. Without us having the feigntest idea.
Home sapiens have been around for 4 million years. That is scarcely a blip on the time scale of life. We have had civilisationf for 10,000 years. That makes it an iota in the fossil record. If we were destroyed today, 65 million years from now, what record will there be of our presence here? and how hard would you have to look to find it? the greatest indication of our presence would be the sudden extinction of 90% of the worlds species.. oh wait.. hasn't that happened before?
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It also sounds just like that show "sliders"
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yeah, Pan's Labrynth.
I think little miss sunshine was so disturbing because it delt with pedophilia in such a sly way, the tenderness and frivolity with which the matter was dealt with made it all the more disturbing.
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No, i wouldn;t delete any memories, i can allready block them out.
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because the majority of private individuals have demonstrated such good management skills in the past?
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As I said on digg
there is more wrong with society than just religion, even if there were no religion, there would still be greed, and that means there would still be all the problems we see today. Religion is often used as a puppet to justify the unjustifiable, but if it weren't there, another justification would be found.
I see religion as the institutionalisation of spirituality, people like to follow, and if they aren't following the ideal of an objective truth, they will follow the next big thing. Think of the all the morally bankrupt but scientifically justifiable atrocities that would occur...
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mmm, without the exact errors it is impossible to say.
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QB, 30%? that is nothing. Have a look at the average taxation rates around the world.
Now i used to work for the tax department in Australia, obviously i am not going to release any classified information, i will however mention an ANU study that used official figures.
30% of Australians live on less than $15,000 only 100,000 (or 0.05%) Australians earn more than $150,000 and yet they make up %30 of our tax dollars. And that is AFTER they manage to evade as much tax as possible. Now our average wage is close to $50,000 so 1 in 3 Australians is living on less than 1/3rd of the average annual income. That is a travesty.
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I agree with quantum beep on this one. Truthiness IS a cognitive bias, just like instinct. And like he said, it serves a function, by allowing us to make complex decisions quicker.
We find ourselves in an environment where many of our instincts no longer apply or are even counter productive. The people you have mentioned use these obsolete instincts against us, by appealing to our instant decission making, bypassing our higer processes.
truthiness isn't all bad tho, sometimes it IS the truth. Not all our instincts are obsolete, and the certainty of truth that they provide is often a very useful part of our lives. We just dont think of that type of poorly thought out decision making as truthiness.
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Water is free here too, but coca cola doe actually collect huge quantities of it for free to bottle and sell...
In fact, many global companies use as much water as they can here, depite out drought, simply because it is a resource they can get for free.
Not that any of this, invalidates your point, it merely highlights how difficult it is for communist principles to exist along side capitalist reality.
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Being young means learning the way the world works, your an adult when you have figured this out and learned to take responsibility for your actions and understand the repercussions thereof.
Our society is getting more complex, children have so much to learn, i think this is what has created the teenage years.
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I've seen ice, sand and metals with ripples like that. Perhaps whatever process put this anomoly there also created the ripples. It is likely to be an upwelling of some sort, and the force of rising to the surface could well create ripples.
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sorry, the links seem to have been stripped out during posting, try these facts
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QB, no. Just like i dont think the lion about to eat me is evil. It is in it's nature. If you create an entity that values itself over everything else, and is capable of "infinite growth" and then let it loose, it will end up devouring everything it can. only things bigger than itself will remain unconsumed, but eventually it will have consumed so much that it becomes so big as to be unstoppable. that is of course until it runs out of things to consume.
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mmm, psych wards around the world are filled with people who have suffered a blue screen of death.
Recent studies have shown that as much as 70% of our "thinking" is done outside the brain. you point your finger at that arbitrary point in space, and you have given an impulse to raise your arm in that direction and form a pointing gesture. but the exact way those instructions are carried out is decided by muscle memory.
People who get better at sport are not only conditioning their brain for the intense rigour stress of competition, but also teaching their body how to react to certain situations. It is the same with martial arts, driving, typing and any other physical activity. The majority of the work is outsourced to movement specific areas.
how did this relate to the topic again?
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don't scowl at me! its your brain that can't take the strain!
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Is it actually translucent? or just reflective?
The melting points of things we are familiar with are different on mars, due to the low atmosphere. low pressure makes it harder for things to freeze.
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clickable links
the article
high res image
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Ok, as you know ati, I believe there is life on mars. However, i think this is not very likely to be liquid water. It is far more likely to be some other kind of liquid with a lower freezing temperature. Still, Its possible there is some form of life in it, regardless.
I still think the most likely place to find life on mars is where the deep deep ice caps meet magma
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I personally think we need an easy way to access old threads before we have another digging. I like plutonium's idea of a make over. I also think shuzak needs a mascot. I have drawn up some designs... when they are finished i will submit them
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Clickable link
video @ break.com
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So, this a plane being hijacked by spartans lol its hillarious
I cant believe how good the costumes are! it even has special effects!
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The odds are small for life?
how do you know that?
Find me ANYWHERE on this planet where there isn't life.
And that is just life as we know it, it is quite possible that not all life requires carbon, water or the heat range we require.
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the next step is here, check it out, they have implanted memories into neurons.
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your head is halfway up there all ready
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how about that time a criminal organisation with NO ties to the cia attacked one an icon of America (not one of the most multinational buildings ever) without ANY prior knowledge on the part of the US government.
Rfavourite: just favourite, with a scooby doo accent
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why does everything end up with someone getting stabbed when your around?
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it doesn't say that, it shows nasa's standard line on Iapetus, very little information. There is a gigantic anomaly here, lets just ignore it and maybe it wllk go away.
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Happy Birthday Yuey!!! I hope there are a lot of turtles in your shower
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of the user AND shuzak?
how much does shuzak own?
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so how are you turning cancer into functional neural cells?
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As soon as you start digitizing the brain you leave it open to being hacked. It is an inherent problem. I was just thinking ati. why not use a few ten of thousands of old computers, each one acting a neuron. In fact, why not make a small neuron emulation program and distribute it freely, allowing people to become a part of the greater brain. Kind of the Seti's outsourced computing power. Seti have a program you can download which uses your computers power to help them crunch numbers. In that kind of system you could have millions of fully functional neurons before you knew it. Depending on the processing power required for your app, you could run multiple instances of it on every computer. perhaps you could make it even more versatile, creating a version for mobile phones and pdas. you will need trillions of instances of the program running to truly replicate a brain, but even a few hundred thousand is a good start.
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where is the uranium timing device and the vial of cyanide? or is this Schrödinger's minimalist box?
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well apparently an o with two dots turns into an A. I love it. Perhaps i should have written Schrodinger in code or math?
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Ati, binary is not analogue. This boxy device you speak of is called a "modem"
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My advice is Scroogle. No adds, no cookies, no logged IP's. Scroogle deletes all access logs every 48 hours.
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i should point out that scroogle gets its results from google, and has been banned by msn
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I usually tell them to get stuffed, very quickly.
In your situation, I'd research her product and its competitors extensively, and the next time she calls, you challenge her with the competitors offers and her companies downsides. Show her that you have made an informed decission and that her product lost.
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congrats hannah
Cm, maybe wine will run flyff
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Happy Birthday Shuzak!! and THANK YOU JAWAD!!
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Bryan, most xp programs and games are buggy or just don't work. UAC is incredibly annoying if your an administrator. Aero is ok, but it is a massive resource hog. The whole thing seems half arsed. Most drivers aren't fully ready yet, and without a service pack it is buggy in places and not very secure. I find myself having to boot up my xp box frequently just to accomplish everyday tasks.
Having said that, XP looks old now.
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its very cool getting to look at the old site, is it just me or did you misspell "collaborative" in the main logo? lol
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I think the super rich should be very heavily taxed. I don't personally see why any person on this planet should have more than 2 million dollars each year. Obviously that figure would have to shift with inflation, but any more than that is absolutely wasteful and selfish.
QB, are you serious? America has one of the worst welfare systems in the first world. It is internationally renowned as a terrible and dysfunctional system, not because it is too easy to get, but because it is so HARD to get, and keep. It sounds like you have been watching too many republican commercials. Or maybe the Upper Middle classers near you just need something to whine about. Maybe you should remind them that 2/3 american tax dollars are spent on the military, everything else is a tiny by comparison. So, have you ever been on welfare? how much did you receive per week? what did you have to do to keep receiving payments?
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I encounter this problem constantly. I have seen firefox take 2GB of ram when given half a chance. Lucky i have 5GB
Anyway, it seems to me to be worst when there are lots of tabs/pages open, i frequently have 10 windows with 30 tabs each running. I don't really even have to be doing much to get the effect, I just have to leave it open for long enough and it starts eating more and more ram. Regularly restarting firefox seems to take it back down to 50mb. It pisses me off that it happens, but i am used to micosoft products, so i all most expect failure.
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This is a very very interesting and importing topic, not just because of the one situation in new orleans, but because of the questions it raises about the greater issue of climate change and its impact on populations around the world. This is not an isolated event, it is one we will see time and again in the years to come. If sea levels rise by 2 meters, hundreds of millions of people will be displaced and homeless. What decisions are made regarding New Orleans will be symbolic of decisions that will be repeated throughout the world.
We change our environments to suit us, that is one of our defining qualities, instead of us adapting to different regions, we change those regions to suit our agendas. Building shelters, turning forest into farmland, turning water into land, time and again we have terraformed our surroundings. Usually we pay little heed to the long term impact of these measures, the destruction of wetlands to create housing estates disrupts delicate food chains, altering habitats far from those we intended to change. Every day we are unintentionally creating huge swathes of desert out of what was once arable land. Climate change is the greatest example of these unintended consequences.
If the population of new orleans is moved, it will set a precedent that will eventually lead to massive overpopulation in inland cities, and turning rural communities into massive refugee camps for displaced citizens. How much of this cost will be footed by taxpayers? do we give these enviromental refugees a ticket to somewhere else and then leave them with nothing? Do we pay for them to be restablished? or do we let them find their own way out of decimated areas, and leave them to figure it out for themselves?
If New Orleans is rebuilt to withstand ever worsening storms, how much of that is paid for by the taxpayer? do we create barriers strong enough to withstand another hurricane like katrina? or to withstand the even larger storms that are to come?
And if New Orleans is destroyed again, how many times do we keep rebuilding? Eventually insurance companies will refuse to insure people who choose to stay, and their hand will be forced. Those that remain will be left to rebuild the remains of their lives time and again, doubtless incurring massive debts in doing so.
New Orleans is not the only place facing these issues, venice is another example of a city faced with annihilation due to climate change. What is Venice's response? They are undertaking a gigantic project to build vast surge barriers in the open sea, massive barriers that will rise up out of the water and provide a barrier during storms. But this undertaking, named Project Moses, is built to withstand only conservative estimates of sea level rises. If a greater change happends, venice will be lost forever unless further drastic measures are taken. How much can venice afford to spend on projects like these? a city with an all ready massive annual restoration costs. New Zealand is also planning a massive project for its largest harbour, one which has been hailed as a world leader in this field. But many fear that even this is not enough.
As for my opinion on what should be done in New Orleans? I wouldn't sink my money into a city that will just be destroyed again. The mammoth costs of relocation are best covered now, while the weather is good and infrastructure still exists, one day we may find there is no choice but to leave, and when everything is once more destroyed, it will be far more expensive to relocate.
New Orleans is a test case, and none of the options are good. Ultimately the lesson that should learned from Katrina is that the cost of doing nothing to reverse climate change is far greater than we can currently comprehend. Even the most drastic and economically devastating measures to minimise the severity of disasters, are nothing compared to the decimation of socio economic structures that will accompany climate change.
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either one is fine nadeem, I am the antithesis of a spelling nazi, the more incomprehensible, the better.
As for the 5Gb, its actually 2GB most of the time, but vista lets you turn any thumbdrive or ram ipod into extra system ram. Very handy.
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Its all fixed now Thanks Jawad!!
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yeah, as i said, The hardest thing to fake would be the moon rocks. After that i was merely putting forward the only way i could see moon rocks being falsified.
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Its not the same speed as ram, you are right, and i will no longer refer to it as such. With a system like vista, you have to hype up every tiny advantage or you cry. It is however, fast enough to make a significant impact on the speed of my system. It FAR exceeds the speed of virtual memory, and three gigs of it means i can have the 1.5xram optimal virtual memory allocation running entirely out of fast swap. between that, my video card's dedicated vram and my external sound card's ram, It is really very quick. I cant wait until ram hard drives become big enough and cheap enough to be worth while. Unfortunately in such quick systems, the bus is often the bottleneck.
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Its not completely lost, just specks of gold in nuggets of shit. Quite like psychological theory really.
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honestly, if you want to talk about nasa conspiracies, tell me great wall of iapetus is?(nutjob link) and why is nasa so quite about it? (official link)
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yeah, the lighting and shadows are accounted for by the reflectivity of the lunar surface and the extreme brightness of the sun without an atompshere to filter it.
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well after having done fairly extensive research for this thread, i think its likely that America made it, barely. The shoddy nature of the spacecraft, and the long string of failures on both sides of the race made every launch a life and death situation. With 1/3 astronauts suffered from the effects of adjusting to space, fillign space crafts with the results of their illnesses. Components failed, computers shut down, windows fogged up and became unusable, everything was rushed and people died.
The secrecy and suspicion that arose around these missions probably stems from america trying to gloss over all the actual problems with the mission.
Ati, they were going into space anyway, it wouldn't be too hard to let some astronauts orbit for a week before splashing down again. All though, only the russians had kept anyone in space for long periods. The hardest thing to fake would be the moon rocks. but as only nasa was able to study them -at first-, it would be possible they got them at a later point. Or stole them from the automated russian rover that landed on the moon soon after the american landing.
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Bryan, they twisted the flag pole into the ground, the force of insertion made the flag wiggle.
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Valerio, I worked in a vineyard once. I hated it, by the end of a long day i could close my eyes and see unending vistas of grapes. my hands hurt, i got sunburnt, there was no happy family, just lines of workers who hated it as much of me. Unsurprisingly, the wine tasted terrible.. no love.
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i am Samuel Ferguso, I have a strong history in balloon related endevours and am a real team player, my strengths include crossing Africa in a hot air balloon in five weeks, fighting off ballon hating condors and inventing a mechanism that, by eliminating the need to release gas or throw ballast overboard to controls altitude, allowing very long trips to be taken.
I believe my skill set makes me the perfect candidate for this position and i am available to start immediately.
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Tarm, for more info on the terminator slinky, look here, here and quite a few other threads.
QB, the question is, do you think Chuck Norris could survive a single coil in the roundhouse kick?
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um, no. Sorry. But if you want to find out how, look here
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lol windows ME... like a n00b mousetrap. In theory, i like ubuntu the best, in practice i am most familiar with xp. I am running vista at the moment and.. well i think we have another ME on our hands.
I have personally owned, about 20 computers.
My first computer was a green and black screened dos machine with no harddrive, but boy did i love the games, kings quest, zaxxon, jbird, ancient art of war and text based adventures.
My favourite computer was the fist one i built from scratch, i was 12 and ever so proud.
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Pennywise's huge hair would serve as an impedance, slowing the journey, and ford prefect was nicknamed "Ix", which translates as "boy who is not able satisfactorily to explain what a Hrung is, nor why it should choose to collapse on Betelgeuse Seven". his poor performance at school should reduce his suitablity as a candidate. This bad work ethic is further demonstrated in his name, which came from him incorrectly identifying the dominant race on earth.
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well i think we went to the moon, at some point. the most believable evidence i have head of, was the footprints. If you look at the photographs, you will see the edges are perfectly strait, with no dust falling back into the footprint. there is no moisture on the moon, so what is holding the edges strait?
Well the common rebuff to this is that the lack of erosion on the moon leaves all the particles so jagged that their own friction holds them together. This is the only rebuff i have seen that i would need further clarification on. I know everything is different on the moon, but that would have to be some pretty jagged dust. If anyone has a more thorough explanation, I'd love to hear it.
The US government certainly had the motive to stage the hoax, but that doesn't mean they did it. It is certainly a massive task to have built the space program from the ground up and to have gotten to the moon in under a decade. That is massive. The russians were leading the space race the whole way, first satelite into orbit, first animal into space, first man into space. And then BAM the americans land someone on the moon. Its a big task, no wonder so many people find it unbelievable.
To tell you the truth, I am surprised that apollo 8 made it. They were really very lucky. I feel sorry for those poor guys, trapped for a week in a confined space filled with floating particles of faeces and vomit.
I'll be interested to see what happens when some independent observers finally get up there and have a scout around.
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i love indie, i don't care if its broad. so are most genres.
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my favourite is the oppressed peasent, kinda reminds me of redstar actually
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I love those books
I did not find the movie at all funny
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Ati, I think its kinda more like a series of rooms, like one those sprawling mansions with rooms spreading out all higelty pigelty. Doors with walls behind them and stair cases to nowhere.
I heard that the widow of some gun manufacturer made a vow to build a room in her house for every person killed by one of her husbands guns. I can't remember the gun manufacturer tho, smith and wesson or something like that... she lived till 92 and kept the promise until the day she died.
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i told you not to put it in the wash j3n, i told you it would shrink. but you kept doing it until your specialness got smaller and smaller and one day disapeared
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I only like sweet wines, particularly dessert wines. most wine tastes like rotten grapes.
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CM, i think ive heard of that, something along i think the figure was somewhere near 1/32 chance.
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Chaotic Good
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didn't come and see us, ya stingy bastard!
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CM,
Planeshift is an open source cross platform MMO you may be interested in.
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Fibs
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i disagree redstar, when given total freedom to play games, i never stopped or got bored. There is all ways a new game and a new show to watch, he will never just get over it.
The best answer is great outdoors, and books. but dont just kick him outside, go for a bush walk with him, go on bike rides, rock climbing and abseiling are great fun for 12 yr olds. But make sure you get at least one of his friends to come along. If it is just with you he will probably feel like you are making him do it. If his friend(s) come along, it will feel like an adventure, they will run ahead and mostly forget your there. Also, his friends will end up thinking you are cool, if not a milf.
Get him signed up for soccer or something, get him out socialising with his friends. Even if they end up watching tv or playing video games, at least he is socialising.
Also, think of some activity that will put him in the same vicinity as girls, he'll be well into them by now, and the more time he spend around them over summer the greater his social skills will be upon returning to school.
If you've got a portable tele, let him play his games on that occasionally, but also let him take his system over to his mates place for a sleep over. Again, socialising.
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what does "mealy-mouthed" mean?
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mmmm tabula rasa
now there is a game i could cream my pants for. oh and spore.....
oooooooooooOOOOoooooo yeah baby..
um *goes red*
please excuse me
*shuffles away covering his crotch*
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btw, i too am a flyffer
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oooOooo this will be fun, so who are the mods then Dun Cow?
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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so everyone can post, but no one is.
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Mythbusters, The Daily Show, The chasers war on everything, The mighty boosh, and lots of documentaries and current affairs shows.
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We appear to have free will, and that is nearly as good as actually having it. Just the same as reality itself.
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Show respect for their life by looking both ways before crossing any road (yea verily even a one way street)
lol Gold!
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I you too jerryatrics
Ati, i think the ones on tele are all passive agressive.
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lol awww shucks *blushes*
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lol classic
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it's a pity there's no one left to post anything.
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your evil nadeem? i never knew.. i always thought you were on our side.. you sure you wont reconsider? i don't want to have to smite you
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i agree that the characters in 1984 were lifeless, the greatest example of that being the complete lack of motivation given for a young girl to sleep with the protagonist who is twice her age.
Having said that, I think the empty void that is their personalities could well be explained by the nation of zombies they exist within. Even their bland and heartless depictions are nothing compared to their neighbours.
I think the characters in lord of the flies were quite well developed, considering they were children.
Animal farm was crap, I think there a host of books that would be better used in the curriculum
Books/Reading - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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William Gibson
Isaac Asimov
Arthur C Clarke
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DC, I am not saying the US government is running the planet, I think the US government is being used as a scapegoat and cash cow by more powerful interests. All of the people involved in this story are falable selfish humans who are trying to do the best for themselves and their families, they may have their monty burns moments, but ultimately they are just people.
If such an article were to show up in a newspaper, would you even believe it? I've been following your posts for a while, and I haven't seen your opinion sway on anything. I don't think i should waste my time writing a lengthy response that will ultimately achieve nothing.
If you can name particular things that you want sources for, I will provide them, but I am not connecting the obvious dots and drawing you the picture i can see, because i know that half the dots are fake and the other half are misleading. If you want to go on believing that the US government has more power than corporate alliances, then so be it. You are free to your opinions, and I am happy to remain "that conspiracy nut".
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i am completely stoked, i still play starcraft every couple of months and have done ever since it was released. I can't say that for any other game.
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Rob, you hit it on the head my good man.
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911 wouldn't have happened, or if it did it would have been a motivator for inter faith dialogue, not an excuse for a witch hunt. Afghanistan wouldn't have happened, Iraq wouldn't have happened.
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centuar? is he a genetically modified human/horse? i don't see how that would help in space
*neiigh!!!* I'm floating away!! these hooves have no grip!!
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I imagine it is to keep them from being treated any differently to anyone else.
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people think they are silly?
Well we have apparently had moderators for a long time, If it hasn't mattered before, why would it matter now?
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I agree with QB, but as always, if the community demands to know, perhaps they should be told. I think we should hear more peoples opinions on this
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Ati, there have been repeated examples of cross pollinated species growing, the suicide gene merely renders their seeds infertile. This is the problem, if GM wheat cross pollinates non GM wheat, the later is rendered infertile.
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QB, everyone has their own definition of art, I am not going to impose mine on you.
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ati, the pollen from modified crops can spread through the surrounding countryside, contaminating crops, the pollen from newly contaminated crops can then spread to surrounding plants, and the trend continues. There have even been cases of cross special contamination. In england, a GM maize crop even managed to contaminate turnips, passing on the suicide gene.
It is not just the suicide gene we have to worry about, but any untested new genes. We simply do not know how they interact with humans on a long term basis. When research is repeatedly showing adverse effects of long term consumption in animals, we should be very wary of these unknown substances.
When monsanto tested their corn on rats, they had their product making up 20% of the rats diets. These studies showed abnormal kidney enlargement in all subjects. While this enlargement was deemed to *just* fall within the acceptable limit, the ammounts fed and the time frames used on the rats are far too small to be truly representitive. In africa, people living from aid handouts can frequently have corn making up at least 90% of their diet, for years on end. Such huge doses are completely untested, and the corn provided as aid by the US right now, is GM.
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honestly, i finished the game fairly quickly, strictly from a design perspective, it sucked that you couldn't kill the injured.
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And the huge cost footed by the public health system, surely that takes those points away again.
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terminator slinky vs the rabbit from monty python and the holy grail
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Before i respond to every point in your posts Dun Cow, please list the evidence you require, and what kinds of sources you will accept as credible.
btw, i don't think they are like Mr Burns, I think Mr Burns is a caricature of them.
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There is a distinct difference between traditional cultivation and GM, in that you didn't used to be able to cross breed a plant and an animal.
There is all ready more than enough food to feed everyone, every year mountains of grain and lakes of milk go rotten because it is not economically feasible to export them at a loss. The other huge factor involved in the lack of food globally is westerners insatiable apatite for meat. Meat is incredibly energy and water intensive and requires a lot of grain to grow. If we would reduce our meat intake, there would be a massive global food surplus.
I think you have understated the possible negatives of GM food, so i will overstate them: the complete decimation of agriculture as we know it. Yes, that is very alarmist, and may never happen, but the possibility IS there. We are playing with a fire we don't understand, assuming it is safe based on short term studies is fundamentally foolish. Seeds with suicide genes are virulent and all ready everywhere. As they spread they contaminate the fields they come in contact with, you end up with a situation where one virus could wipe out the entire crop of multiple countries. Indeed, Gm traits have been repeatedly show to be transferable to wild plants. If the suicide gene is transferred to wild plants, we could see the wide scale decimation of forests are grasslands as plants stop producing viable seeds.
I am not calling for the halt to all research into GM food, nor am I calling for the halt of the sale of GM food. I am demanding that GM food be labelled as such. The problem is, its too late to label it, non GM crops are all ready contaminated on a massive scale and if anything does go wrong with GM foods, it will be too late to undo our mistake.
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i watched the original black and white soylent green movie the other night, it was good for a laugh, and gave me a greater insight into the futurama reference.
As for population control. its not gonna happen. Not for a good long time yet. But, a virus and some global warming outghta have thinned us out a bit by the end of the century.
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It might not be very human, but i'd be going for 6 legs, makes the balance problem a lot easier. especially over rough terrain. besides, how cool would it be to see an insect man crawling towards you?
So your going for only lip movement, no jaw or tongue action?
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well it has been speculated that open ended strings may close in a parallel dimension or universe, so our actions may directly effect things we can't detect.
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I think they all spring from the same source, the emotions you call destructive can often serve important purposes, and even be constructive. The reverse is also true.
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Mcdonalds's worst points would have to be their effect on agriculture and health. They are directly responsible for the destruction of the amazon rainforest. The chop down trees to provide grazing land for beef patties. After a couple of years the grazing land has degraded to what is essentially desert. Each year they buy more and more land, gradually turning the most magnificent forest on the planet into desert. This alone has had a major effect on global weather patterns.
I don't think I need to say anything more on their effect on public health. All I will say is, google Mcliable.
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i like ebooks, because i can hit ctrl + f and search for "bang" or some equally exciting word, that way I don't have to deal with characters or plot, i just open up a random 10 ebooks and construct my own story out of the most exciting bits
Nah, seriously, I think engraved stone or metal tablets are the best bet. The mormons know what i'm talking about, they love a good tablet. They're the only thing that will really survive a house fire.. I love being able to commit insurance fraud without loosing my shopping list.
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Anyone who still has doubts about global warming, please read these 26 most common myths about climate change. I think you'll find your particular brand of scepticism catered for.
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well I smoked weed everyday for 7 years, and by the end of it i had lost jobs, girls, houses, possessions, friends and nearly my entire family.
I have seen hundreds of people develop weed psychosis, and while the jury is still officially out on whether weed causes mental disorders, or mental disorders make people smoke weed, there is a definite connection. From personal experience I'd say weed exacerbates underlying illnesses.
Having said that, I still believe weed is less destructive than alcohol and that some people apparently suffer no ill effects whatsoever.
I've looked into the history of the ban on cannabis, and it looks like there were some powerful lobbyists against it, in the form of the tobacco, pharmaceutical, cotton and oil industries. marijuana was a threat to all of them, and they could not allow the use of such a versatile substance to continue.
As we begin to run out of oil we will look toward other fuel sources, biofuel being a likely replacement. Cannabis is perfectly suited for the production of biofuel as it provides large ammounts of biomass in a very short time frame.
The war on drugs appears to me to be a way for the US government to create a perpetual underclass while also funding it covert operations, the classic example of the US profiting from the drug trade is the Iran-Contra affair. In my opinion the war on drugs is unwinable as the war on terrorism.
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Sweden's system has worked well, all though it is strongly effected by the economies of surrounding countries. With the election of a right wing party in 2006, I expect we will see a continuation of the decline in government spending that began with their depression in the 90's.
Sweden's social welfare programs are world leading, and are funded by the highest taxes in the industrialised world. Sweden is in many ways the embodiment of the kind of socialist/capitalist middle ground that i see as the most healthy form of modern democratic government. Having said that, Sweden still faces the same problem of false democracy as the rest of the world. Sweden has a strong history of citizenry being involved involved in politics, and I thik that has contributed strongly to their relative succes. Many swedes do not trust their politicians any more, and as such the steam may have gone out of their paradise.
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On a global scale it is in all westerners interests to maintain an underclass, it is their suffering and toil that directly enables our affluent lifestyles.
On a national scale it is in the governments best interests to keep those most likely to rebel drugged up or locked up.
Covertly funding (and profiting from) the international drug trade, while keeping it illegal, serves to accomplish both of those ends.
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yeah, shuzak mail got flagged as spam for me, I set things strait, but i am sure someone out there has been chucking it in the spam folder.
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Theyve got a robot who can move similar to a human, with the equivalent speed movements
similar to a human, how fast is that? I'm guessing its not a shaolin robot just yet..
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Jared, if its the one I'm thinking of, I thought the personification of corporations was magic.
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Do Westerners actually sit around and discuss what they're doing to maintain the underclass?
While middle class families rarely discuss this kind of thing, yes, western political/industry think tanks routinely discuss it. All though usually it is spoken of in terms of "market share" and "off shoring". Free trade is the perfect example of how we maintain dominance. Our farmers are given subsidies and tax breaks to make them competitive in the global market, this directly disadvantages poor countries in the name of nationalism.
There is a segment of the underclass that is not economically productive; some of them are in and out of prison, and often not for drug offenses.
Their lack of economic productivity leaves them without a voice in a world run by money. Often once released from prison they are not allowed to vote, also they are left no option but to work the jobs that no one else wants to take. In the western world we feel we are too good to clean up after others, if we allowed the underclass to have choice, they would also turn their noses at these menial yet essential tasks.
The government would make a hell of a lot more money by regulating and taxing now-illegal drugs,
The benefit of profiting off the illegal trade is that the money made is not declared in the budget, and so can go on programs that "do not exist" and could not otherwise be funded. While imposing a tax on the sale of weed (this incidentally was the first step taken on the road to criminalisation) would generate more revenue, the use of funds would have to be transparent.
The people in jail on marijuana convictions are a fairly random lot
This is a misnomer, while there are people from all socio economic backgrounds, most are poor and black. lets have a look at the stats in America:
~2% of white females will spend time in prison.
5.6% of white men
5.7% of black women
32% of black men will spend time in prison in their life times.
How much money do you think the U.S. skims from the illegal drug trade, versus the tons of money they squander on enforcing the drug laws?
The US government largely runs not to profit itself, but the companies it represents. Just as in the case of war, profit is made, not by the country, but by industry. The money spent on enforcing drug laws is a trivial price to help keep the MIC in power.
You see, Keeping the population addicted to illegal drugs also helps institute a regime of fear. If a large percentage of population is regularly engaging in illegal activity, they are in fear of the police and so less likely to stand up for their rights.
Are you saying that the jails in the U.S. are full of political prisoners?
I am saying that the carefully planned sale of drugs to rival gangs and cartels serves to fracture and divide powerful social groups that could otherwise turn against the government.
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Further discussion on the death penalty can be found in this thread: "Capital Punishment"
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Che Guevara was assassinated? If i recall correctly, the last entry in his diaries has him leading his men out of the hills down into town to attack some soldiers, it was an ambush.
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I like itstory, I'd lobby to get history changed to itstory
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only because you cant get there j3n.
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robotnaught? why wouldn't they call it robonaught? it rolls off the tongue easier.
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Yes, Pigs of an ancient lineage (hundreds of years) were exclusively fed GE grain for 15 years by one group of farmers, by the end of that time frame fertility had dropped to nearly zero. Not only had The farmers lost their lively hood, they were then sued for monsanto because the pigs now contained a modified gene patented by monsanto.
Above and beyond the obvious health risks, there is the issue of third world farmers who are tricked into buying seeds with the terminator gene. The next year they must go out and by the same quantity of seed again, trapping them in a vicious cycle. Plants with this terminator gene grow rapidly and spread between fields easily. Monsanto constantly sues farmers who's fields were accidentally contaminated with GE crops. Monsanto even contaminates farmers fields just so they can sure them.
If you think there is any voracity to monsanto's claims, just take a look at the other products they have sold as safe over the years. These include Agent Orange, Bovine growth hormones and PCB's. All of which were sold to the public as completely safe and later shown to have disastrous consequences. Monsanto was also involved in the Manhattan Project and responsible for the Texas City Disaster.
GE foods are not future foods, we have been eating them for years, for instance, the vast majority of US corn is all ready GM . Old El Paso uses GM corn in all of its corn based products. Your tacos are contaminated my friends.
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I love that there is a secret thread, flying under the new and interesting topic radar.. Mwuhahaha my friends, we are the secret club that can see this
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sorry, a minor correction, it was made by an American living in Australia.
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I tried to submit this to digg, but someone beat me by a couple of minutes, my own fault for submitting it here first.. its not like anyone is online anyway..
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ati, thats horrible! do you have some built up anger towards possums, or just me in particular?
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*meets ati at the top of the cliff, flanked by a swat team*
=insert corny one liner=
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Yes it is Dun Cow, as are all capitalist societies so far seen, to some degree or another.
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Rye, so you hold no strong opinion about killing millions of potential humans?
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A fetus doesn't have the potential to be a human because it already is the way I see it.
ah yes, my mistake, you go on to say
Once it has a brain I see it as human.
I think we are in agreement here, we are just arguing what constitutes a brain.
So, What do you call a brain?
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..and did you know that LG actually stands for Lucky Goldstar..
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Yue, "prison clutter" could easily be reduced by simply relaxing marijuana laws, there is absolutely no need for capital punishment.
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Yue, 1 in 6 inmates in American prisons are in there for marijuana related offences. The average time served by a murderer in the US is 6 years. Some people have received life sentences for possessing as little as a joint or less.
Really, If your worried about over crowded prisons, you just need to stop arresting so many people. America makes up 4.6% of the worlds population, and yet has 24$ of the worlds prisoners. 55% of American inmates are in for drug related offences. A greater percentage of your population is in jail than in any other country. And its only getting worse
See, if you make the things people do everyday illegal, then you end up with a whole population of scared people. Scared people are easier to rule.
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24$ was obviously meant to be %24
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I should add that in many states once you have been to jail you are no longer allowed to vote. with 1 out of every 8 black Americans aged 24 to 29 currently in prison, that begins to make a major difference to the political landscape.
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I got 75%, looks like I'm a threat to national security...
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ati, would this "friend" be you by any chance?
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The most Evil Corportaion in history is exxonmobil, for so long it wore the mantle of richest corporation, and it sure didn't get there by being nice. While It is directly responsible for global warming, and a host of other heinous crimes and should be held accountable for everything is has done, the rule of oil is comming to a close.
Today, the Worst is Wal-mart. 5 out of the 10 richest people on the planet are Waltons, including S. Robson Walton, who has recently surpassed bill gates as the richest person on the planet. Walmart itself recently overtook Exxonmobil as the worlds biggest corportation, earning US $220 billion a year, or more than 1/5th of the entire US federal budget. And that is just revenue generated from the companies it admits to owning, most of the factories that serve walmart are made out to look like independant entities.
Wal-Mart's crimes are multitudinous and far reaching, and include the Horrific mistreatment and underpayment of workers around the globe, The complete obliteration of suppliers and competitors, the utter destruction of local economies and the worldwide pollution and misery they are directly responsible for.
In China the minimum wage is 31 US cents per hour. Wal-Mart's factories pay 13 cents an hour in horrible and toxic enviroments where workers are required to do up to 16 hours work per day.
Even in the US, some wal-mart stores have an annual staff turnover of above 300% due to the harassment, bullying and pitifully low wages. For instance, when 11 meat workers tried to join a union, Walmart decided to buy only prepackaged meat and fired all of its meat workers across america. Sexual harrassment is also more common at walmart than any other employer.
It is only because we continue to shop there that they can be so dominant, Walmart is the ultimate example of how individual choice can created a monster. It might save you a couple of bucks to shop at walmart, but you can rest assured that millions of people are paying the price for your choice.
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"All of us are in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars" - Oscar Wilde
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The president probably all ready has invisible guards.
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Waqqas A Baggia,
i think you will find that not only the wiki, but indeed the official LG website both state that "lucky" was the original company name, in fact it was officially named "lucky chemical industrial corporation" upon formation in 1947. In 1958 lucky branched out from chemicals into electronics and so goldstar was formed.
Ati, while this new epaper is visible from 180 degrees, which is far more than its predecessors, that is still not enough to make an effective camouflage suit.
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Personally, I think a capitalist economy could work quite well, if we had a democracy
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Rye, how do you feel about contraception?
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nice
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" " cool
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Meh, i say we lobby to have cameras on EVERY inch of land. in bedrooms and toiloets, from every angle
We'll use the slogan, "if your not guilty, you've got nothing to hide" We'll see how it takes for our slogan to be shot down. Then we can switch sides.
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Dun cow, if either of the last two american elections had been watched over by UN monitors, as the US demands happens in so many countries, The UN would have deemed the elections compromised and called for a complete overhaul of the terrible US voting system
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well if we had moderators, it would have been deleted. I like the option of guest posts, I've used it once or twice to say things too controversial to put my name to, or to illustrate a point without starting a new account. Having admitted that may demonise me, but I know others have done the same thing.
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we all ready have a nethack community, i love it, and have lost myself in it so many times.
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drinking 100 glasses is nigh on impossible, i've been in various drinking contests, milk, water, beer, and others.. I can tell you that no human is going to drink 20 liters in an hour. you spew way before that...
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Jen, that is shocking, how is your friend dealing with it?
oh, and i would like to thank Guest for her input, My sincere condolences. People haven't responded, because guests often don't come back.
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Yeah, that may seem like a dim view to take, but I think its more realistic than pessemistic. And I totally agree with her on all but one point, people aren't a complete waste of space. Honestly, we may have destroyed the infinite masterpiece that is earth, but we have made our own masterpieces and i truly believe the universe is a better place for having things in it like the Sistine Chapel, The Mona Lisa, The Sagrida Familia and The Library of Alexandria. Even once these things are destroyed and slip back into eternity, Their existence is a beauty that would not be here without us. In that sense I think that art and science are the greatest and most noble things any human can contribute to. It is a shame that we spend so much time on war and sport.
And for the record, i think she needs to get laid more too
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I'm going with Anti-matter here, that's some cool ass shit.
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That is hillarious..
The fact that Foxnewsium is so ever present, gives me gave concern for the future of peons everywhere.
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bah just because i can imagine a perfect apple, does not make a more perfect apple appear in front of me.
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...existence could be a predicate for infinite guys
could you please explain what that means? what is an infinite guy?
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Jawad! Good to have you back my friend! I can feel the life returning to shuzak all ready! I am sorry to be so harsh in that email, but sometimes the truth hurts. Either way, you seem to be back, so i don't regret it for an instant.
Everyone has missed you, and we will be glad to help you in any way we can.
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Dun Cow, I would wager it would be a lot less than that. how much do cows get sold for? a few bucks a kilo..
"From his neck down a man is worth a couple of dollars a day, from his neck up he is worth anything that his brain can produce." - Thomas Edison
Rye, I had no intention of slamming you, If there is another way you would phrase what I said, I would love to hear it
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lol, yeah quantum, i have had that happen sooooooooo many times. you don't actually need tags tho, just a comma. The tags help decide the related topics and to help you post in multiple communities, so it is worthwhile filling that field in.
It is a shame we wont see that topic, perhaps you could repost an abridged version..
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I agree with both of yues posts, but i think those links could just open in a new window instead of replacing your post.
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start run?
windows key + r is much quicker
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Bah! back on topic, and the answer is, it is nearly impossible. 3 days stuck in a whales throat would not leave a human alive, if stomach acid, utter constriction, being chewed on, and pressure changes didn't kill you, lack of air would.
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you'd need a wireless router and wireless cards for both your puters
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I'm a song from the sixties!!
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Quantum,
This thread is inherently religious, unless you created it to rub the unlikely nature of this story in the face of the religious.
Ati,
Religious types might insult your beliefs, does that give you the right to insult their beliefs? Does what you just said give Marcus the right to insult you?
We all ready lost one of our regulars to this type of "pick on the religious guy" attitude. It doesn't matter whether you agree with someone or not, argue the point at hand. It is the only way.
The thing about this story is, can you imagine swallowing a mouse and having it come out alive three days later?
No, it seems highly unlikely.
But thus is a religious story, the point of it is to show that if you believe in god you will be ok. In a way, the sheer impossibility of it is the point of the story. Even when something is impossible you must still have faith.
What people don't realise about the bible is that the old testament is really more of a jewish text, yes it gives you some background. But when jesus came along, he over turned the old testament. He said that the ten commandments were replaced by his one commandment, and that is "love each other as i have loved you." In fact, the new testament heralds a new age for god, he is no longer represented as smiting people or getting jealous. It's allmost like God has grown up, and for me, it seems that it is because we had grown up.
I don't believe that the bible is totally true, it has so many glaring holes in it, but i do think it is am important text, worthy of the read.
Let me challenge you all to something, let this be an intellectual challenge. I dare you to go through the entire new testament, find me anything Jesus said that you disagree with.
Its weird, it is really like Jesus spends the whole book quoting Buddha.
Anyway, my point is this, if you actually want to win a point with someone, you usually have to meet them half way. You cant expect every christian to be well versed in scientific theory if you aren't at least passably versed in their most important text.
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Gadget, Jesus was an awesome guy, I loved his ideas, the problem is, he was basically preaching Buddhism, and a long time after Buddha
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Rye, so your saying that all babies should be kept alive simply because they are human? And that all humans are conceived with an inherent right to life? Is this correct?
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im going with modus ponens, because the more truthy things are the better
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Fibs, America has its dick so far up our arses you can see their knob when we talk.
I am too angry for words.
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*creeps over to Quantumbeeps house and waits outside the window*
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yeah, thats my point, modus ponens makes everything true!
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all right, so its now three months later and there are now 4338 members. that works out as 1693 new members. or about 18 a day. My estimate predicted 2380 new users by this point, 26 per day. I was trying to be conservative in my estimate, looks like I wasn't conservative enough.
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maybe we'll finally get to see a terminator slinky in action!
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here is the BBC article on the unveiling
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I'm not sure that i would have traded chat sidebars and browse for highlighting
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my sidebar just came online, except for latest friends posts.
lets check if post is working yet
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Mine would have to be Bill Hicks.
"You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? You ever noticed that? Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. "I believe God created me in one day" Yeah, looks liked He rushed it."
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's just hilarious."
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty fucking cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
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The paper is heavy reading, for a lighter explanation, have a look here
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the community is cool so the sun pic can stay, the delete button is beneath your original post
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i think its great that this topic has made it onto the interesting topics page lol
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Jen, he is the host of "The late show, with david letterman"
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Fibs, As soon as I saw his threads i knew he was paying me out. I just don't care, thats why my response is to take him seriously. The fact is, when this topic got posted, people in chat were scared to post actual replies.
Hello, Shuzak is what you make of it. If you think there are too many boring or stupid threads, then post some insightful ones. there are projects, have you looked in teamwork at the top right of every page?
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Fibs, I can't believe that film shows people actually committing suicide. And then shows the footage to their relatives, that is incredibly intense. We will have to watch it when it comes out.
I feel that when somebody commits suicide, it is society that has killed them. We are forced to be such selfish people, ignoring homeless people on the streets and barely speaking to our neighbours. Everyone is out for number one, and that sentiment is actively advocated by government and industry. The extreme selfishness around us may not be caused by, but it is certainly exacerbated by, capitalism.
I have attempted suicide on a number of occasions, but i could never bring myself to fully let go. I could never push the blade deep enough, or take enough pills or take that last step off the edge. Now, looking back, I am so glad that i didn't, but i wouldn't blame me for doing it either, I had to go through some terrible things.
I have also tried the disappearing act, to see who would notice. When I was living in a distant city, far from my family, I locked myself in my room for 3 weeks, for that express purpose. I went to the toilet in jars, sat on the net all day, and heated my food up in a microwave. Nobody noticed i was gone, not even my house mates came to check on me, but I am such an unpredictable person that me disappearing for a few weeks is not that unusual. Even now, with a stable life, if I disappeared for a month or more, my mother wouldn't even notice. I have so many friends that I don't get to see any of them with any great deal of regularity, the only person who would know something was up would be fibs, and you guys.
We have become so interconnected that we didn't even notice ourselves becoming disconnected, from our neighbours, from the community, and from society. Our tribe has become too big, and this rapid expansion has left cracks wide enough for whole lives to fall between.
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well for me, I see socialism as the middle ground between capitalism and communism, So i feel the sweet spot is much closer to socialism. I am glad that we have managed to boil our differences down to a sweet spot. I have all ways liked boiled lollies.
Again, I didn't want to be drawn into defending communatarianism, but i don't think that is as big an issue as our capitalist mindstates makes it out to be. Fish don't make good clothes, if they over produce fish then the value of fish goes down, it is in their best interest to keep the production of fish at a relatively stable rate, sure, if an individual wants to catch a bunch more fish so they can get a more comfortable or high tech boat, then they can. But if they try to maintain the higher level of production for a long time, the price of fish will drop. I also think that inter-commune market forces would establish a maximum value for fish too. One fish will never be worth one boat, and that keeps people from doing nothing for too long.
If i live in the fish village, and i fancy myself to be an inventor, I need only convince my fellow villagers that my research is worthwhile. I think you'll find that the fisherman would be more than happy to give me a fish everyday in exchange for the ideas and technical abilities i could provide. Of course i would help them when there was a lot of work on, but if they thought my project was worthwhile, they would continue my "funding". If we had a difference of opinion about the value of my work, i could move up the coast to find a village more suited to my style of thinking.
And so the communes function, sharing and trading for hundreds of years, each person doing some things they don't want to, and some things they do. The beauty of this system is its stable sustainability. Capitalism is terrible at stable sustainability, it is based on growth, and it surely responsible for our explosive expansion since its inception. Expansion has its purpose, but sustainability is key to our long term survival, and requires a radical reshuffle of our priorities.
Again, i am not here to preach about one system or another, and I will avoid defending communitarianism any further in this thread. I am glad we have found some common ground, and if you are happy to keep singing the virtues of capitalism, i will keep singing the virtues of socialism. If we can accept that we each serve a valuable role and that there is some wisdom in both views, then we will get along famously. Now if only our politicians weren't so focused on securing campaign funding, they could begin to make the same realisation.
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after reading through that post I was struck by an apparent logical inconsistency, I will attempt to rectify it now. I say
"Again, i am not here to preach about one system or another,"
followed by
"i will keep singing the virtues of socialism"
The second comment refers to modifying the current system as opposed to a complete change of system.
I hope that clears it up
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Wendy, I agree, and I am sure eventually we will find better methods within the field of psychology just as we have done with older medical professions.
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There is only one species of whale alive today thats physiology would enable it to attempt to swallow a human, that is the sperm whale.
This is taken from a 1911 manuscript describing how to slaughter sperm whales.
"Specimens have been measured which reached a length of 87 feet and in all probability weighed as much as 75 tons. Although the mouth is enormous, large enough in fact to permit 10 or 12 men to stand upright in it, the throat measures only about 9 inches in diameter."
It goes on to say that out of the thousands of whales they killed, never once did they find anything other than the whales usual diet.
There has been a giant squid found inside a sperm whale, and all though the squid looked larger than a man, squid have no bones and could be squeezed through a 9 inch space far more easily than a bony human could.
It is also worth noting that sperm whales chew their food.
In the 1900's a few sailors claimed to have been swallowed, but there were many tales of sea monsters going around at the time, and all of the recorded tales fall apart under close scrutiny.
Now, from a religious perspective, there are plenty of explanations.
Metaphorical - The old translations don't actually say whale, but fish. And even that could be taken to mean a storm, or a bad circumstance. The problem with this is that the bible is pretty good at pointing out which stories were meant to be taken as parables and which were meant to be fact, and Jesus is even quoted as believing the story of Jonah.
Prepared Miracle - The text says that god "prepared" the fish to eat Jonah, so its possible that it wasn't an ordinary fish at all, but one specifically designed to allow humans to survive inside it.
Other Miracle - It could be that Jonah was killed by being eaten, but was resurrected three days later, and so came out of the belly of the fish.
Creationist - Since the earth was apparently only created a few thousand years ago, and we have many fossils fish capable of swallowing humans, it could be that one of these ancient fish actually swallowed Jonah.
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Thank you phil, I could very well say the same thing to my children right now, before they are even born. Unfortunately, you hope that we can change it may be ill founded. In my opinion we are past the point of no return, the shit will hit the fan, and it will be the biggest mess mankind has ever seen. But i don't think it will stop us from being the virus that is destroying all other life on this planet. Those in power are just too powerful, and they really don't care that people are dying. The way i see it, humans are no longer in control of this planet, corporations are. And while the humans that make up a corporation might be privately worried about the future (read as: themselves), the corporation does not care as long as it is still growing.
We have no global government, and unless we get one we will not develop the global standards and strategies required to combat this planet wide disaster. Unfortunatlely, the only thing like a global government thats anywhere on the horizon is the US global police state, and they aren't exactly doing much to help.
In the fossil record of earth, this time will be recorded as one of the great extinctions, our greatest legacy is the absolute decimation of every ecosystem on earth.
Your children can't play in the street, my grandchildren may not even be able to play outside.
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*shows Quantumbeep Poss at 9*
Yes, we had a 24 volume encyclopaedia that i had finished by the end of primary school. but i think the real turning point came in yr 2, my mother had pulled me out of school and was home schooling me. On one of the weekends i went to visit my father, he sat my sister and I down and showed us some crude algebra.
Kai
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now figure out what numbers the letters are.
when i returned to normal schooling in yr 3, i had far outpaced all of my class mates, in fact i did yr 6 math in yr 3, 4 ,5 and 6. by the time i finished yr 6 i had completely given up on learning at school, as i had all ready done all of my tests multiple times over. Instead, I focused on fighting. When i went to high school, i was put strait into yr 10 math and 2 weeks later they had transfered me to the genius class at a different school. The smart kids used to get picked on, but i had been fighting for years, so i got in lots and lots of fights. Eventually my mum had to pull me out of the school and put me into a hippy school, where i was school bully for 3 1/2 years.
It is pretty rare to meet someone who was simultaneously a geek and a bully, but I actually used to wail on kids for not knowing pi.
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I have never revised for a test in my life, i have also never failed a test.
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ATB, the reason there are lingerie stores is because hot chicks like rubbing it in ugly chicks faces.. . lol
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i like house, I don't watch it religiously, but i do enjoy the episodes I catch
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Jen, this makes me wonder if you even check the topics. There is a thread with exactly the same title as this one, a mere four posts beneath yours. it has a few posts all ready, check it out.
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nope, at least you don't get 6 yr olds raping 4 yr olds
well all though a 6 yr old is allowed to sleep with a 9 year old, the 9 yr old isn't allowed to sleep with the 6 yr old, so they cant have sex at all.
12 is the age at which they can sleep with someone, but only another 12 yr old. Sure that could be raised to 14 if you so choose, just raise the variable to 7. I personally don't think you should punish two consenting people of the same age, no matter what that age is.
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I'm not going to actually do it Wendy, I just couldn't handle killing the middle age men with their bellies showing
mind you, it may be worth it for the digg memes lol
yes, to all the authorities thinking of arresting us right now: This is only theoretical!
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in fibs's defense, neither of these people are known at all in australia. I base my vote entirely on their pictures
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so i say 50 years and you say 45
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ati, i think i should explain the action potentials a bit further, as it is the main point i wanted to make. the range i specified above does not mean there are 100 possible signals. Any range, no matter how small, has a theoretically infinite span. Just as there is an infinite range between 1 and 2. This is the fundamental difference between the human brain and computers.
Computers, can send either on or off. Brains can send an infinite range between -30mv and +70mv. This depth of possible signals gives a subtlety to human thought that is unattainable by computers. This is the major problem i see with uploading, as it makes any calculations based on simply the number of neurons and the connections between them, meaningless.
The true number of variables is: 1 trillion neurons(including glia), giving us 1-5 quadrillion synapses to map, each of which can send out a variable signal of anywhere within the range I outlined above. Not only do neurons send out a range of signals, neural dendrites also alter signals once received. The proteins found in dendrites can alter things like the latency of channel opening, the electrical conductance of the ion pore, the activation voltage, and the activation duration.
So we are left with an astonishingly complex system to replicate, As I have said, I will be astonished if we manage to accurately emulate this entire massive and subtle network within the next 50 years.
I believe we will require quantum computers to get anywhere near the capacity required to fully emulate human consciousness. Tho we may have "low res" emulations well before then.
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Its not really a paradox, if one of them can't do it, then they can't do it
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socialism is the force that keeps the selfish nature of capitalism in check. We must all ways be somewhere between socialism and capitalism, moving too far in either direction has been shown to be disastrous, time and again.
In a communatarianist society, each town is its own commune, and excess production is traded with surrounding communes. On such a small scale, individual input shows a real and immediate reward. If a fisherman goes out and catches twice as many fish, then everyone in the village gets twice as much fish as they normally would, including the fisherman. And with so much extra fish, the village can afford to trade some for a better boat. In this way the efforts of the individual return real tangible benefits to the individual and the community at large. I don't wish to spend too long defending this ideology, I use it only as an example to demonstrate a common misconception.
Sure, if the population was expanding at 5-10% such a large liquid workforce would not be necessary, but there still needs to be a pool of skilled and experienced workers to draw on, not just raw recruits. Also, the population growth you mention is part of a greater expansionistic ideology which is not sustainable. We all ready have too many people, a 5-10% annual global population growth rate would be devastating.
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fine hello, think small if you must, but start you own thread! this thread is for people with a sense of scale... people with vision.
Mad scientists dont go for second best, any evil genius can wipe out humanity, it takes real skill to destroy the earth
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lol Quakers are the only religion universally recognised as being unconcriptible, they are entirely non violent and would not compete in this fight.
That being said, I'm going with the cheetah
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hello, Jawad and josh are currently working on a host of new features, once they are released, you can expect to see the active membership of shuzak rise as we see the addition of the import friends from address book feature.
Personally, i have spent so much time on digg that it got boring, its just about moderation. I personally spend way too much time on shuzak, and after a while it starts to feel slow.
Hello, Ati and I have been inventing things, but in chat.
Personally, i think chat died when people started swapping msn addies and other contact details, and with chat empty, there are less people on the threads as well. But there is no way to stop that, if people like other forms of chat better, that is their choice. Shuzak is what it is, and it will allways be constantly improving. Realistically, it had been going for half a year, and is still experiencing teething problems. Shuzak is still a baby, and we all have to help it grow.
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Well i think Freud and Jung were both nutters, the eodopus complex was just freuds way of justifying his own twisted thoughts. These guys are the fathers of modern psycology, and yet they were both crazy. I think Psycology has some useful ideas, but I hate psychologists.
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That guy is a fool. Doubting whether global warming is man made is one thing, doubting whether it will have any negative effects is blind idiocy.
Regardless of what caused it, global temperatures are rising, ice is melting and the changes in sea temperature will result in massive changes in global weather patterns.
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i sleep naked, and just like rob i cant sleep if its too hot. especially if my boys get too hot, so i always sleep on my side with my knee out to give them some air. I can't get to sleep in any other position, all though fibs tells me that as soon as I am asleep i roll onto my back. And yes, fibs does hog the whole bed, but then so will I if given half a chance. Oh and I used to like lots of pillows, but now any more than one gives me a neck ache.
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Craft a sword out of ice, then slice through their inner thigh, right at the groin. the blood will fall out of them within 20 seconds. you can then melt the sword, destroying the murder weapon. just make sure you leave no footprints or genetic material near the scene. Also, get them while they are out walking, drawing suspicion away from yourself.
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This is ridiculous, do we live in such a global police state that no one is willing to respond to this thread?
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Bill Nye, his photo seems to indicate he has a larger penis.
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mind you, bob ross has a paint brush and pallette to use as a sword and shield, and he is a would be member of the manly beard club. I am changing my vote to bob ross, i think he will stab bill nye in the penis with his painbrush.
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I do not think the blue brain project is anywhere near as close as you think. They have made the same mistake, they emulate the neurons and pathways but not the variances of signal.
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josh, if it did, bill would win.
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sorry ati, i was wrong, i did some research, and even the plan i had would not destroy the entire earth, only destroy the crust. The earth, apaprently, is notoriously difficult to destroy. I think i'll a thread on it.
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Quantum beep, i am not sure if that counts as destroying the earth, i mean the bits you melt will be squished out of the hole as the two solid halves are pulled back together. The earth would instantly reform due to gravity. If you melted the entire planet (even if it solidified again) that would count. But unless you found a way to keep the two halves apart, they would always pull back together instantly. Personally, i think the difficulty here comes from the word "entire", your plan doesn't destroy the entire earth, just a slice of it.
Now, if you used the mirror to shoot an large asteroid at venus, knocking it off course, you could use venus as a cue ball to knock the earth into the sun. The math involved in calculating the exact angles required is staggering, but your mirror would give a great deal of accuracy. The beauty of hitting the earth with venus as apposed to any other planet is its retrograde orbit, which means it would impact with earth at an astonishing speed, as fibs said, the force may even shatter both planets.
Ati, if we do manage a von neuman machine in the next fifty years i will be impressed, self replicating nanobots (im guessing thats your angle) are one of the most complex applications of the technology. If you have nanobots capable of manipulating reality at an atomic level, you may as well use them to each smash two atoms together once they had consumed the entire planet, rather than hurl themselves into the sun. But i dont think you'd even need to, eating the whole planet definately counts as earth destruction, even if the eater is still there.
In fact, if you did have nanobots capable of manipulating atoms, you would have opened up a whole realm of earth destruction methods.
As for the time limit, you have until earths military launches a successful counter attack.
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Ati, yes i am sur., our brains are analogue systems that transfer action potentials through voltage gated ion channels. These action potentials have a range of -70 mv to + 30 mv, and while that is not a huge range, it is significant in that a change of well under 1 mv still consitutes a different signal.
In addition to the signal variance of action potentials, the blue brain project has not even touched the glia, which outnumber neurons 10:1 and have been recently shown to have an important role in proccessing information. Ultimately you are looking at mapping the varying signals of a few quadrillion synapses.
Tom, yes, but thats not what i am saying. Each electricle impulse sent by a neuron is a of a varying frequency or current strength. This increases the combination of signal possiblities by a ridiculously huge margin. Suddenly you have huge number of different signals being sent to each of those 16,000 nuerons. The blue brain project has also not yet recreated the role chemicals play in our brains, and it is a big role.
I do however agree with Jared, given enough time, eventually we will replicate our brains. I just dont think we are near the ten year time frame Ati has put forward.
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quantumbeep, is that a yes?
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If romance is dead, it is because women got over it, not the other way around. I have wooed many a young lass with a variety of techniques, and i can tell you now, that being romantic almost always gets you defined as a creep. Girls dont like guys that are too into them. The old motto, treat em mean keep em keen, actually works, as sad as it is, and it usually works on even the nicests and most intelligent girls. stangely, in my experience, the only girls who appreciate romantic behaviour are lonely and unpopular.
If you want to know what does work, it is their friends. If a girls friends like you, she will. The best way to get them to like you is to be funny. Smart makes you look arogant, showing off makes you look like a looser, and being fit helps, but dont rely on just that. Being funny is the key to modern relationships, girls and guys both say in surveys that they will sleep with a less attractive person if they are funny.
So if today its friends you have to impress, in the past it was family. Methods of impressing the two are vastly different. Romance evolved in a less forward time, when you could never be alone, except in public. Where as Romance used to be an indication of honourable intentions, now it is merely quaint and a little backwards.
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well I NEVER did homework, EVER. I dropped out of yr 11 4 times, and then bummed around for a few years before being arsed to get a "proper" job. When i went for jobs, they didn't care in the least that i hadn't gone to uni, in fact most places said they prefered people wihtout formal training, because they want you to learn how to do things their way, not the textbook way. So i fell strait into a high paying job, my friends had all struggled through college and uni to get the same job I fell in to thanks to my intelligence and ability to learn quickly. Now, i can go to uni as a mature age student, i dont need any college marks, i just need to sit one test, and tests are my forte.
I can honestly say that out of all the jobs i have worked at, no one has ever asked me if i finished yr 12. They very rarely even ask if i have a degree, as a rule of thumb, 2 years of industry experience roughly equates to a degree in the eyes of most employers.
So while all my friends struggled through essays and lectures, I partied. during all that time i would build computers and sites for friends, as well as researching new technology and techniques in my spare time. But essential i just got wasted.
Sure, if i had fully applied myself throughout school and uni i would probably be earning more now, but when you can drift through life on nothing but raw intelligence and creativity, why not?
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Ati, for a crude conciousness, lacking the full subtlety of a human, sure.
I am not banking on full scale uploading being a publicly available option for closer to 50 years. By which stage i will be 75, if i live that long.
The thing is, we do not really understand the brain yet, alot of what is accepted thought is really still just theory. I would expect major hurdles on the road to uploading, and the first few uploaded humans will be pioneers in a completely unfamiliar world. I personally am not putting my brain into a system that has not been tested at a level of basic functionality for at least 30 years.
And ati, have you considered how susceptible to solar flares and polar reversals you will be?
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scrath the pole flip, we allready deemed that to be unlikely to effect many computer systems. But still, just remember to keep a flesh backup at all times..
I must say, i envy the first child born to two uploaded parents.
as for the time frame, by your calculations, how long after the first emulated conciousness is created will it be before systems that powerfull will be priced so that the average person could afford them?
Karl kruzelnitzke(sp?), an australian futurist, has called my generation the last generation to die or the first generation to live forever. Which one we will be seems to be fairly dependant on how long each individual manages to live for. I am an unfit risk taker with an addictive personality and a selfless streak that may well be my undoing. 50 years is a long time for someone as unpredictable as me.
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now we just need to figure out how to reupload jawad, he seems to be at least partially missing.
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i dont think escalators can stop a terminator slinky, it'd just extend itself up to full length, hold onto the top and then pull itself up.
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hmm i dont know why buddha didn't load, i'll try again
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if your falling over each other to save each other, you'll both end up dead.
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it strikes me that jesus got owned in that particular encounter...
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that it might Ati, unless someone else has a better plan...
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its epona!!!
and occa ree na
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with help from friends and family, just taking it moment by moment, one foot in front of the other.
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well here its 16, but I think the rule should be:
half your age + 6
so an 12 yr old can sleep with another 12 yr old if they so choose, but not anyone older. a 14 yr old could date a 13 yr old, a 16 yr old could sleep with a consentual 14 yr old, at 18 its 15, @ 20 year old can date a 16 year old, @30 its 21, @40 is 26, @50 its 31, @60 its 36, @70 its 41.
So im 24, meaning the youngest i could sleep with is an 18 yr old, and that seems fair to me. I also couldn't sleep with anyone older than 36, and allthough i think i am an adult capable of making my own decission, i know i am not at the same level as a 36 yr old. I also know i was sexualy active well befre the age of consent, and these age limits seem to fit what everyone did at school anyway.
If different countries have stricter laws they have only to change the variable to +7 to make the absolute minimum 14
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allright, ive been through this situation a few times, i had a housemate nick off with $10,000 worth of rent once.
Firstly, im in australia, so the law may be different, but it probably isn't that different.
Ok, if you want out of the apartment, just leave, give your landlord a months notice if your feeling generous. If you are friendly with them you could always find a tenant to replace yourself, indeed you could do that and not tell the landlord, effectively subletting it. hell, you could even sublet it for more than you pay, sure the lease will say no sublettingh, but as long as you apear to be living there when they do an inspection, its all good.
as for the $8,000, there is only one thing to do, work. in fact if it worries you that much, you miht be wise to get a second job, to get it paid off quicker. But seriously, i'd be suing the guy who owes it to you, while working to pay it off.
When does life start? now, this very instant, as soon as you are ready for it to start. You are living it right now, you certainly dont have to wait for a family.
There is no reason you cant keep your old friends and make new ones as well, i have an amazing aray of friends from all over the country and the world, but i am still friends with people from my childhood. but honestly, more friends, does not equal good friends. Good friends are priceless, and you should never let go without incredibly good reasons.
as for relaxation, you could try pot, it will relax you and stop you worrying about anything, but it will also make you as dumb as a post and incredibly lethargic. A better plan is to eat well, have a hot shower and get a lot of sleep. try some breathing exercises, or some martial arts, but you shouldn't need them, just focus on taking care of yourself, pampering yourself and relaxation will follow. Perhaps allow yourself a certain ammount of time per day to worry, beyond that, nothing matters it is your time. The key to relaxation is living in and focusing on the moment, not the future or the past.
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As i said, a socialist state may be impossble, living a virtuous life may also be impossible, but life is about the journey, not the destination. We must spend our time pushing toward the future goal of socialism, so that the the capitalist society we live within today is at least socially conciouss and as fair as we can make it. Yes there will allways be greedy people trying to undermine the collective, but we should never give up or we risk handing them total control.
You say that you are middle class, i say that is an illusion. I live very comfortably. but i have spent time homeless and unemployed, and i know that even then, at the darkest depths of poverty, i was richer than 90% of the world. None of us in the western world are middle or lower class, we are all upper class. We only think we are middle class because we are comparing ourselves to the elites. Where would the western "middle class" be? we would be earning slightly less than we are now, which is fine by me, because we are greedy pigs who only live in such comfort because we exploit the destitute workers of foreign countries.
You and I could live very well on a 5th of the resources we use, even just turning off some lights and appliances and buying locally grown produce could drastically reduce the ammount of resources we consume. In our present society we are constantly reassured that our greed is good and healthy, but it isn't.
...And you don't need socialism for that./i]
No you dont need socialism, but you do need a socialistic drive, someone needs to be expounding socialist ideals, even if they dont recognise them as socialist. As i said, we may never end up in a totally socialist state, but we must strive to give our heartless capitalist society a social and enviromental concience.
[i]Ok, but what socialism suggests is that you have everyone who buys a lottery ticket win, splitting that million dollars between 10 million people, and that doesn't help much.
But the winnings are no longer 1 million dollars. If those people spent 1 dollar each, then the true winnings is 10 million dollars, the lottery company is merely skimming 9 million off te top.
Either that or capitalism sort of works, and thats why the standard of living is rising.
The greatest fallacy of capitalism is expansionism, for a company to retain its share price it must not only break even, but make a profit and constantly expand. But our earth is finite, there is only so much we can expand before we reach our limits. Sure if we start some extra terrestrial colonies we may be able to continue the expansion, but at the current rate we are going to reach the limit of our economic expansion before we have colonies large enough to allow for further expansion.
There is an upper limit to the resources and energy we can pull out of our enviroment each year, that limit divided by the number of people on the planet gives you the highest possible global average standard of living. We allready have enough food to feed everyone, but our greed and focus on monetary value stops us from sharing it around. The problem is not that the standard of living we middle class westerners enjoy is too low, the problem is that the majority of the worlds population lives in desperate poverty. Raising their standard of living by a tiny percentage each year is not good enough. and when we reach the energy and resource limit, they will still be living in poeverty, not happy or well enough to feed their kids. We need Global equality, and our current expansionist capitalist economy does not allow that.
For instance, did you know that a capitalist economy requires unemployment, the ideal unemployment rate is between 5-10%, this ensures that there is a liquid workforce to allow businesses to expand. So our entire system requires 5-10 of our populace to be unemployed! It is this ingrained inequality that we are working against.
Sure, capitalism works, i am not denying that. It is a great big machine that chews through resources and people, spewing out destruction and inequality, but it works. I am saying we need to be constantly adjusting the machine to reduce its negative aspects.
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I dont get how your program is going to do the fact checking, it takes all these guesses, but how does it then check them against the actual neurons, that seems like the biggest problem to me.
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I agree with Quantumbeep
The other issue is that nuerons dont have just an off and off state, they have a huge range of variables.
you'd need every computer on the planet running in parralel to emulate a brain, even then you would fall short.
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I wouldn't step in front of a terminator slinky to save someone, if i am close enough to step in front of it, we are both as good as dead all ready.
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josh, but then shuzak doesn't make any money!
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Ati, there are enough nuclear weapons in the US arsenal to split the earth in two. Global warming (while i agree it is a definate threat) cant do that
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bah, at least they havent patented free thought yet, i cant wait till my brain starts bluescreening
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your right, they do say day-tah.. i say dah-tah
ba-se-eal, thats a cool way of saying it..
after thinking about it, i guess i actually say baz-il
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i now have a favourite tank, the tank ball.
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I am a vagatarian, just like all the lesbians.
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If all wealth were dispersed equally, the majority of people would enjoy a higher standard of living. In reality, wealth is concentrated around a minority, leaving the majority with a lower standard of living than they would otherwise enjoy.
How are the majority tricked into accepting this state of affairs? They are given the illusion of hope, the hope that they may one day become part of the wealthy minority. The actual statistical probality that any low income individual will attain such excessive wealth is miniscule. But the mere idea that it could happen is enough to keep people grinding away in their oppressed existences.
It is this self same illusion that keeps people buying lottery tickets every week, even though their chances of winning are so extremely low. As long as you occasionally dole out a small reward (a million dollars), and prominently display the winner as an example of what can be achieved, people will continue to believe that they have a chance.
In answer to your question, our standard of living is rising and you are right, it is in the elites best interests to keep it that way.
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here is the new thread
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well thank you wendy, it is nice to be appreciated
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I've been relying on my history alot, and memorising how many replies each thread has, so i can tell if its been replied to by reloading the new topics page.
Also, i have been cruising through other peoples histories, seeing what they replied to recently.
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the only advantage a humanoid mech has over any other shape is the ease of use for a humanoid driver. Why would you put a human in a mech when you could remotely control it?
A humanoid form would be terrible against an equally sized insectoid form, and if they are remotely controlled, then the drivers body movements would be automatically translated into the equivalent insectoid movement. The only thing keeping insects from evolving larger forms and wiping out humans is the materials they have to work with. An insects carapace, when scaled up, becomes too heavy to support itself, when manufactured materials are used to replicate the design, that problem is solved.
As for flying vehicles, a propulsion system similar to a jet pack with swivelable jets, would make for an excelent all terain reconasaince vehicle. All though unsuited to the heavy weapon platform role, such a vehicle would be well equipped for search and rescue or even in a scout role.
I am unaware of recoil being an issue in the case of harrier jump jets, and in a design with swivelable jets, the rear jets could be synchronised with the firing system to provide additional recoil support when needed.
So, a shark shape, with rotatable jets for fins and guns for a mouth, serving as a scout.
A cat shape for high ground speeds.
An insect for mech to mech warfare
A Spider for heavy weaponry.
A wasp version of the shark may well combine high speed with heavy weaponry at the expense of armour, hopefully this disadvantage would be offset by agility.
Again, i believe humanoid mechs will be most usefull in civilian applications, providing intuitive movement and grest strength in enviromentally hostile enviroments.
Just for a moment, i'd like you to imagine dropping a tank off a 30 foot cliff, it will take a massive ammount of internal damage from the impact. Now imagine a 30 foot mech falling over, with similar results. the force created by tonnes of metal falling that distance is huge. A humanoid mech need only be pushed over to cripple it, hence the need for more legs.
Rob, lets say your in your in your mech, in mid stride, with one leg in the air, and i (a tiny human with a primitive rocket launcher) shoot the back of your knee. You've done alot of martial arts, so i imagine you can clearly picture your mech falling over like several tonnes of armour clad electronics hitting a brick wall. even if you get back up, many of your more sensitive systems are likely to be offline. And thats just one human.
Now imagine your 30 foot mech is up against a 30 foot mantis with 6-8 legs. keeping 4-6 legs for support i need only sweep out (blow off, cut off, bend or break) one of your legs with my 2-4 free appendages, and your down like a computer dropped from a balcony.
Against a spider, the result is even worse.
So, your left relying on your guns, the same guns available to any other form. but you have less space for them than many other forms have.
Besides wich, acording to your post, you'd actually be inside your mech, where as i would be remotly controlling mine from deep within a nukeproof bunker.
The odds are heavily stacked against the humanoid mech, and i haven't even begun to broach the topic of mines and traps.
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i have some teeth for meat, but most of my teeth are for vegetables, so that is the ratio i try to stick to.
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i've been floating around 4 and 7chan for a couple of years now, 420chan is a new one on me tho.. I think they are all stupid and funny and wrong.
Con, you are surely spun of win and awesome.
Have you been to 2chan? the site that started it all..
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perhaps pocket protectors? lol
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the high end? your practically banging my door down!
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Ryegye, even if they dont have memories, people have memories of them. And, in the case of amnesia they are still capable of full cognitive behaviour.
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allright, i've been avoiding this thread. i wrote an indepth reply that was lost during server migration, and i have been avoiding re-writing it. Here i will provide a brief version.
I was 15 my gf fell pregnant, i was allready living away from home. Neither of us had any form of income, we were both heavily addicted to noxious substances and completely incapable of looking after ourselves, let alone someone as helpless as baby.
My gf had been raped multiple times and stabbed, in the months before we found out she was pregnant. We had no idea wether the child she carried was mine.
In addition to all of this, my gf had been adopted as a baby. She never wished to put any child through the hell she went through. I will not disclose her experiences, i will only reiterate that adoption was not an option for her.
I never forced my wishes on her, i made it explicitly clear that it was her body and her choice and that i was only an advisor, but that i would stick with her no matter her decision. She made the choice herself, and it was gut wrenchingly hard. The emotional fallout from this event was a catalyst eventually ended our relationship. It is impossible to say wether we would have stayed together for a child, but i strongly doubt it.
She Had an incredibly tough decission to make, she held our three futures in her hands, and more than that, the lives of our families and support networks.
Ultimately she decided to abort our child within the 1st trimester, a massivly hard decission for a child (15) to make. We killed our child... but no matter how my opinion on this matter has swayed, no matter how guilty or vindicated i have Tfelt, there is one thing that has always stood firm in my mind. here was no way on earth i would have let anyone on the planet make that decission for her.
I am fundamentlly disgusted that anyone can believe they have any right whatsoever to have any say at all. It is none of your god damned business! It is her body! it is her life, and if you lay a stinking finger on her and i will fucking rip your throat out! The decission is hard enough as it is without every nut job with a good intention trying to have their opinion heard.
10 years later, and i still cry when ever i hear "brick" by ben folds five. It was one of the most intense and devastating experiences of my life.
I am trying to recall what i wrote in that lost post, i believe it went something like:
This is not an issue that can be resolved by broad policy, this issue is only ever decided on a case by case basis.
I am not telling you its right, I am not telling you you have to go through with it yourself. I am telling you that it is not your choice.
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Rye Gye, this is not about absolute worth, it is about relative worth. neither the pheotus, the amnesiac or the anethitised person are worth any less than any of the others. But if you had to choose between the wellbeing of you and someone you love or the well being of one of the other three, who will you choose?
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time for a volume 3 methinks
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there is a down side to being at the top, my graph piece can only ever be blue or green, where as most people get to take turns at all colours.
and Ati, you need to stop having the same opinion as me, i dont want to have to keep giving you karma! It wouldn't be so bad if you weren't so bloody concise and correct! It makes it hard to compete! can't you just let up for one moment,? let your gut hang out, speak with an local accent, maybe even throw in some slang once in a while? even just the occasional incorrect factoid would be welcome
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*************Shuzak*************
whos the alpha geek now biatch?
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well with some creative cross supports you could still retain a high degree of structural stability. its not like our bones are solid...
He could take the form of a bird or a snake or even a wheel, but I have come to believe that he could take out a predator fairly easily. I'd like to know what would happen if one of those alien face huggers got onto him tho?
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If i was the t1000, i would take a form that resembled a very thick mist, with my molecules barely touching, giving the illusion of fog. then i would cycle my lower molecules past the ground, providing locomotion. In this form i would be extremely hard to kill. The average human probably wouldn't even notice i was there, until they were within me.
Or else i would become a long wide flat snake. wide and flat enough to provide lift. A flying liquid metal snake, now thats pretty bitchin.
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Ive used leaves on numerous occassions, the best was from a plant called "lambs ears", ultra soft, thick, padded and squishy leaves, better than any toilet paper i have ever seen.
The worst was stinging nettle.
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well if i was out for the count, a vegetable, i'd hope they'd keep me alive long enough to upload me. Or else they could kill me and crygenically freeze me, as long as there was enough money to pay for the unfreezing. I guess we would all want to hold out hope for some miracle cure at some stage in the future, and with the pace medical technology is advancing, we may develop effective treatment for malady x in my life time. So if i wasn't feeling anything bad, i'd probably want to stay on, but thats because i am selfish, like we all are. Luckily i have the sense to realise that my family may not be able to afford a cushy cryogenic chamber, or even a hospice bed for the rest of my life, so if all available options have been exhausted and all treatments have failed, and when there are no advances or cures to be seen on the horizon, i'd be ok with them turning me off.
Pain is another matter.
Zenmonk, that sounds incredibly painful, If you were 90 and suffering that pain, would you have had such a strong will? Lets say a few of your internal organs and some of your cognitive capacity have diminished beyond repair, and you are lying in absolute pain 24/7, unable to move. Yes, with great effort you might be able to ignore the pain for a few minutes or hours, but years of constant agony take their toll.
And what of terminally ill patients? Given a few weeks or months to live, in absolute inescapable agony, i would hope my family would allow me to die before puting me through months of needless torture.
I dont know what its like where you are, but in Australia it is illegal to commit suicide. I think that is one of the most patently ridiculous laws i have come across. If we are to assume that our society is made up for the most part of reasonable and sensible individuals with their own best interests t heart, then why should we care when they choose to end their journey? None of us know whats on the other side, but it'll sure be an adventure finding out. Why spoil their fun? And more to the point, why not let that a person held alive by life support, and who would have long since perished if not for that support, decide for themselves? Sure, if they plan to make a mess of themselves or interupt traffic, that might be an offense. But if they have figured out a way to slip away quietly and without interupting anyone, why not let them?
Personally, i'd probably ask for an overdose of opium, now theres a way to go out.
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ati, does he have internal components? it looked like hive minded nanobots to me.
quantumbeep, yes, that is exactly what i was thinking. it could even take the form of a ball, allowing it to shift directions 90 degrees in an instant. Oh and btw, i think its native form is a puddle.
I think the ribbon like sky snake form would be pretty deadly, it could writhe itself forwards, like a snake in water. (a very scary sight i must say) Lashing itself back and forth to provide locomotion. I have a vision of one floating through some trees, chasing me down. Or a whole sky full of them, a storm surge of T-1000s sky snakes.
Now, of this miriad of forms, which is the best for fighting other T-1000s?
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can i get a terminator slinky?
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oh, and i scrunch, i feel it provides the highest average number of microns beween my flesh and any fecal matter. It doesn't matter how many layers you fold, its not the paper that stops the particles, its the air pockets within the scrunch that provides the tru insulation.
Lets take a roll of toilet paper and a plate covered in water. if i scrunch up a few sheets and dab one side to the water, there is still a small dry portion to grip. If the same experiment is repeated with the same number of sheets folded over each other, applying one side of the paper to the water will saturate all of the paper. Scrunch wins!
I would like to point out that i used to work in the hygene industry, and the whole fold vs scrunch thing is a pointless discussion. The real question is how you dry your hands. Never, ever, ever use a hand dryer in a public place. They spew out fecal coliform, the combined particles of hundreds if not thousands of people, spray directly onto your hands in a warm breeze. Always use paper towel where available, and in public toilets, it is better not to wash your hands at all.
As you open the cubicle door to leave, you have just touched the same door as thousands of other shitty hands. The tap has particles all over it too, but you wash them off right? well kinda, but when you turn off the tap you reapply all those particles back onto your skin, and then of course there is the hand dryer, which is an absolute sanitary nightmare. The exit doors are also covered with the particles of thousands of people, but dont freak out too much, almost everything is.
In a public loo, my routine goes something like:
I open doors into loo with my elbows, if there isn't any paper towel for hand drying, i will usually go to a different toilet. If there is, i will take some immediately and use it to open the cubicle door. Throwing that paper in the loo, i grab some toilet paper and i wipe the seat down a bit, again with the scrunch to avoid particles. Then i'll do my business. On the way out, i shut the lid before flushing, so as not to release everyones spray into the atmosphere. then i get some toilet paper to open the door with, tat gets me back to the paper towel i use a small piece to turn the tap on, i wash my hands with soap (paper towel for the dispenser) and then i turn off the taps with another small piece of paper towel. I steer clear of other patrons and their particles, i dont care if they think im wierd. I have seen the evidence and footage, they haven't. If they had, they would act like me too. So i use my elbows or feet to open the door where that is possible, otherwise i use a piece of towel that i fold up and put in my back pocket. Then its back to diner, which probably has more fecal particles on it than my hands anyway...
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well, i'd like to take this opportunity to state that shuzak s totally what you make of it. If there isn't any content that interests you, submit a topic yourself. Yes it says the site is geeky, but geeks are people and a very diverse bunch thereof, so just about anything you can think of is fine as a new thread.
It is a bit distressing seeing the same people posting topics over and over, i want to see more from everyone. If we all started one thread a day, shuzak would be on fire!
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Ati, you are catching up man, you have gained about 90 karma today, i only managed 60. at that rate you'll overtake me in about 2 weeks when we are both on about 2600. The important thing to remember here ati, is that if it weren't for Josh's handywork, you'd be on top all ready.
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For reference, here are the threads this topic follows on from:
What Political View Do Most Geeks Hold?
What Political View Do Most Geeks Hold? 2
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I like your line Rye Gye, And looking back at cavemen and then around the animal kingdom i was nearly convinced by your arguement. But I am not convinced, Our whole society is a testament to our ability to live comfortably outsde what is natural for us. Indeed, it seems to me that when compared to other creatures, our great trait is our adaptability (and all the things that allow it), we are capable of living in every condition on earth, what other animal can claim that? could cavemen?
Yes, we are inherently selfish, i totally agree. That will make true socialism incredibly difficult to institute. But we are capable of it, and even if we are eventually shown to be incapable of achieving any of the great things we have set out to do, will that make the effort and less worth while?
Yes, it might take a few generations before you have indoctrinated parents raising indoctrinated children. But so what? Am I incapable of stepping out of my parents footsteps? Socialism may be impossible, but we have to try, because the alternatives are so unacceptable. (as if that shouldn't be a catch cry? I'm on fire! lol)
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Yue, when I first joined there were lots of old threads to look through, but that number is finite, and eventually I was going to run out of old threads. So now its only new threads and new comments that i focus on, new members still have a backlog of hundreds of threads to look through.
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that quote is such utter rot what if you were in a non-lethal car accident that left you as a vegetable for the rest of your days. How has that made you stronger?
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:O thats shocking yue! you want to euthanise your father to stop him complaining?
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and you euthanise it all the time too ey bonky?
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*shakes bonkys hand in a mysterious and convoluted manner*
i used to, im a recovering shower whizzer. *looks guilty* i always aimed for the hole! it all ends up in the same place anyway!
nah, i dont pee in a shower that anyone else has to use. Sure, while drunk or if i am really REALLY busting. but toilets are usually right next to showers, i usually grab a towel and do the dash instead.
bonky, do you pee in the bath as well?
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Rath those ideas sound awesome, and i am totally up for the toon idea.
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[sarcasm]because no severly debilitating or deadly conditions can be contracted from feces[/sarcasm]
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i didn't sleep last night, i went to bed at about 3pm, and then woke up at about 10pm
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the battery life kills it for me, mine uses AA rechargable batteries, and so just like the wiimotes, cameras, wireless headphones and most remotes in my house, it spends its time dead. I cbf pulling out 50 different sets of batteries one after another and charging them all in a rotating roster. F that, i dont think i'll buy any battery powered goods again, it just means they're never powered.
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I'd hand it over for 2 humans, not 1. And pregnant ladies count as 2 people.
I DO think less of people for not doing the same. You heartless bastard, your the reason the world is shit!
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Guests should only be allowed in chat if there we get channel ops. Personally, I allready thought anyone could view my public Zaks. I know that when we had those wierd issues a couple of days ago, anyone could log in as me and see my private Zaks, this has left me completely jaded, and i dont personally consider zakbooks secure at all anymore. I certainly wont be sending sensitive information through a zak, private or public.
Public means any random off the street can see what relationship i have with other shuzak users in one glance. Private means only someone sufficiently determined or lucky can see anything and everything. I dont like either of those options. Shuzak crashes far too often and still has too many bugs for me to consider it at all secure.
When it comes to the concept of "someone off the street" or guests, I treat them all as if they were my boss or my worst enemy. So no, i would vote instead to extensivly increase the security on Zakbooks.
Jawad, just think, when we had those wierd issues, Anyone who cared to look could read through every private Zak you have ever sent me, and every private zak that anyone has ever sent you. Now, try and tell me that doesn't make you want to switch to email?
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All it takes is one idiot in a position of power, and we have more than enough of them.
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People who commit suicide are not all dead weight! Often they are merely ostrocised, embaressed or incredibly depressed. People still commit suicide because of homophobia, discrimination, expectations and disapointments. These are only a few of the incredibly sad and pointless reasons people kill themselves every day. Often these people are otherwise normal functional members of society, who come upon hard times they are not prepared for and have no idea how to confront or escape.
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hmmm, that makes navigation alot harder.
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yes, but thats my point, A new member joining today has a lot more content to look through, so it might just look dead to us old timers
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none of those animals can survive in all of the conditions we can, they do not alter their enviroments to suit themselves. I dont see any rats or dogs living in space or under water, we are in a different league all together.
Mice and racoons are very adaptable creatures, and are therefore doing well in the new enviroments we are creating, but we are the ones creating those enviroments, to better suit our needs, not theirs.
our great trait is our adaptability (and all the things that allow it)
Yes, as you said Zen, by that i primarily mean tools and communication. But saying that we only achieve these things through our use of tools only strengthens my point, yes we use tools, and they dont. That is why we are dominant, because we are adaptable adapters.
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We are more comfortable outside the tropical zone we find naturally habitable, than any other creature. Even with a nurture period of only a few months we can find ourselves completely comfortable in a new enviroment.
Just as we step between different computer generated worlds, with all their customs and history, we would easily adapt to life without capitalism. Yes we would still be driven by our individual need to survive, but when the only way to do so is by contributing to the collective, people will contribute, without a need for monetary reward or individual wealth.
The sooner we realise that this endless cycle of over consumption and over production is forced upon us by our overlords. And that the concept of individual wealth is an illusion designed to lower the average standard of living so that a privelleged few can live far above that average. The sooner we will emmancipate ourselves and the vast majority of the human race.
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One moment of idiocy is often more devastating than a lifetime of fanaticism. The problem with idiocy is that is so hard to know when or where it will strike.
theres a quote i like that relates to this:
"nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently detwermined fool"
not a clue who said it though.
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btw, karma to Quantumbeep for the pink floyd quote!
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Well i didn't log into anyones account during that time on principle, ati, i know you did, what was required to gain access?
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no
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lol Dun Cow, do you realise that if Shuzak were a non-profit volunteer organisation, my government would pay me $500 a fortnight to sit here, as long as i did more than 18 hours a week here
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ati, i am on firefox, and i sometimes get that box, i used to get it more frequently but it isn't there all the time anymore. maybe i just dont notice it anymore.
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No, not dead, yet... but very much slower.
we used to have 10-20 threads a day and you would regularly find >10 people in chat. now its a couple of threads a day and a max of 3 people in chat.
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i think its an awesome function, allthough i have to admit at first i thought it was just a top users page, until i actually looked at some other profiles
On my graph, my score goes off the top of the page, thats so cool!
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haha tribbles...
i was playing angband once, and i spent days (irl) fighting an ever expanding mob of tribbles, they spread through the levels like a plague, devouring kobolds. Eventually i managed to fight my way back to the surface, only to discover they had infested the entire known worlds, city streets and shops, all filled with the fluffy little *'s
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but i record it electronically on multiple computers. it is essential that i be able to replicate my recordings. I host my music for free, i make no money off it, why should they?
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i have tried my hand at animation, i decided it would do it the hardcore intricate way and drew each frame individually in photoshop. by the time i had made it to 45seconds i was over animation.
My friends and i recently recorded a short film entitled "Aussie Retard in a Porno Store", i'll chuck it on youtube when ive got around to doing the subtitles and soundtrack.
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i like the idea of voting, i really think it should be instituted in many places all over shuzak, people should be able to insert a poll into a post.
Thing is, unless they are done well, polls may well lower the incidence of divergent opinions, with people simply clicking on an answer instead of writing one themselves. But that might not be so bad. perhaps it will mean more users have some input into a thread they dont feel like commenting on.
Ultimatly it is Jawads call.
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those changes look awesome Jawad, i cant wait to see them in action, thanks for all the hard work guys, shuzak will benefit greatly from these fresh inovations.
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who are these bastards? I live on the otherside of the planet, i didn't vote for them! no taxation without representation! what gives them the right, if they want to fuck over US artists, that is within their mandated scope, but international artists too? what scum.
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two people declaring their love in front of all the most important people in their lives, promising to care for each other. Wether God is there or not is allmost irrelevant, they are joining together under the eyes of their family and friends, their universes.
The formalisation of assumed commitment is not useless, nor is it purely economic. It is a tradition that springs from respect, it is a public declaration of fidelity and affection, and that is a good enough reason to keep it around.
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*suddenly 20 years in the future and that kid is now a teacher, marking homework*
lolz sif j00 aint st00pid, n00b!!
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allright, i'll definately look into buying this one.
Wii like it :p - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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it could change size without changing mass, if it gave itself hollow bones, or expanded other cavities, giving itself more mass to disperse across a larger surface area
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wait so i have to pay them everytime i write a song?
what are they gonna do about it?
are they gonna stop me writing songs?
the minstrels guild has gone crazy!
Some body call the mayor?
Oh no hes a halfwit!
and the vice chancelor has taken money for our soldiers lives!
he cut a deal with the fighter and theives guilds,
the blacksmiths'll get more work so their happy and the
warhorses thirsts are never sated so fresh hunting grounds must be aquirred.
the lefties have the numbers to block a move in the town hall now so the Minstrels may have made this attempt too late.
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i dont know how things rhyme where your at, but my accent goes like
I
Cruz @
Shuzak
Shuzak's Collaborative Program - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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So what relative worth do you ascribe to karma?
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t would depend on the form and impact of the alien upon me.
Maybe something that could scan my mind without me noticing could take the most pleasing form possibly available to me
not that I'm inviting anyone to scan me without first requesting permission through some easily replayable form, so that i can spend some time deciding if i can interact with said someone. As Julie said, Interaction may be inherinently deadly in so many ways.
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how bout this, developing an unhackable instantaneous voting system?
The unhackable bit is hard. you'd need dedicated lines, new transfer protocols and reliable independant watchdogs. You'd probably also need to alter the current media monopolies so that people had a wider range of viewpoints to consider. But in a well informed society, would this help?
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now theres shirt:
"I learnt Brainfuck at Shuzak."
screw with their minds man!
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theres a shirt*
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sorry I cant help biglew, is it a good movie? do you have any other clues?
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I think the next revolution is not a change of government.
The Currencies of the future are water and energy.
We recieve a finite ammount of energy from the sun each day.
We have exceeded that ammount.
We have a finite ammount of water.
Most of it is not drinkable.
I believe the sturcture of society will move to adjust to these realities.
I think that we will either wipe ourselves out, or end up in an Ice age oligarcy, controlled by ultra rich undying dynasties.
It is too late now for cute ideas, The Planet is fucked. If we were going to do something, it should have been done years ago. The weather is changing. It is a juggernaught, slow to move but unstoppable once it is triggered and awoken. There will be no communist revolution or Global love in to stop the consequences.
The Infratructure of Society will be battered, many will die. The richest among us will buy sheltered places underground,
The lucky few, perhaps 100,000 will submit(ascend) to be uploaded. These truly wealthy will rule from their infinitely replicated hive minds.
What humanity finds itself still concious on the bitter surface will eek out an existence in the broken remains of their ill equipped infrastructure. Whatever societies and governments that may prosper in isolated pockets upon the surface, will be powerless to overcome the technology of the ascended minds.
This will continue for 10,000 years(give or take 10,000 years) or so, until the ice age ends or the minds begin terraforming. It is impossible to predict the actions of such superior minds, but perhaps they will keep the surface and eden for innocent humans. Lets hope so, energy source in a vat is not the best alternative.
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and your spats, cuz its on!
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oh yeah, my point.. right : P
We exist in a corperate oligarchy, Our vote is meaningless, business is global, government isn't. I believe voting for a Green Socialist Democracy is the most effective way of preparing ourselves for the disasters to come.
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Of course its not a random 70% killed by the virus, anyone whos rich enough can get a vaccine
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Gringo, what, and you are sure of what the minds will do?
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and why couldn't that somewhere have been in my brain, or wherever else it is this reality could be being generated?
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Ati, So if this conciousness could exist within myself, what have a i proven? that whatever it is that is emulating a universe and me, is also emulating conciousness?
I do like your thinking though, very clever.
Not really. Your senses deliver information through some mechanism. Whether or not that information is true is the subject of the debate.
Well im not sure about that one either ati, how do i know my senses are real? without knowing that i can't ever have certaintly that something exists. If my senses are faked, then any information recieved from them can not be trusted.
So how does one prove ones senses are real?
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We are constantly told of a terrorist threat, we very rarely see them do anything, but we are still told to be afraid. In lieu of any real threat we are given shows showing what it would be like if they did do something. But dont worry! we have superhero government agents to save us! all you need to do is give them two thirds of your tax dollars and a whole stack of your civil liberties and they will make sure the baddies never do anything! If support ever wavers, if the populace ever questions, thats when a real attack will happen, to get us back in line. Back to our menial jobs and cozy family and friends.
I call bullshit on all of the bloody terrorist shows, its the same ploy they've been using for decades. Hollywood and television are forever putting out movies and shows about whatever the current imaginary threat is. I don't see any anti-communist movies comming out lately, but of course they are no longer a threat. Its not like terrorists are new subject matter for the media either, there have allways been terrorists in movies, rambo got to fight some, so did most of our big action heros, but the threat of random small factions under some insane leader doesn't hold as a much water as a whole international ring of religious zealots hell bent on our destruction. They have just fine tuned the threat, now its in your own backyard, in the mosque down the street. Be afraid, continue working, the government has it all under control.
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I like it because of the people too, the communities we are a part of our like a list of our interests and it lets you know who you share what interests with. i.e. new person comes along, I can see at a glance that they are interested in quantum physics and martial arts, which lets me relate to them easier, and also gives them a bunch of questions in each of their chosen interests. If i see alot of people joining who all join the "history" community, i know its time to start a history thread, allowing me to keep in contact with all the history buffs simeltaneously.
I also like that i dont have to repeat myself too much, if someone wants to know what i think on a subject, i can direct them to a thread where i have allready outlined my position.
I like the new history function alot, it stops me from losing threads completely.
I like the diversity of topics as well, Why do i need to go to a forum that specialises in one subject? when i can just start a community on that subject here.
But yeah, ultimately its the people, spread across the globe, in all different fields, sharing knowledge and asking questions.
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steve C, log in so the karma you recieve actually counts
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Ati, your mother was an aids boar, your dad had a small penis and was bald by 20, your actually a wanted terrorist and you were born a girl. I dont know about you, but if that was the reality, i'd prefer the delusion.
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Ati, my dads friend recently bought an entire island in Indonesia for US$50,000 it had no services and nothing built on it, and is still officially indonesian territory, but you could spaciously and comfortable house maybe 100 people there.
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If you wanted to make your own country however, i suppose creating a floating island and sailing around international waters might be your best bet. either that or start thinking about extra terrestrial locations. The island could actually be doable though, and for a relatively small ammount of money too. Start collecting barrels and tyres, wrap them up with chicken wire and then concrete them together, just make sure you have enough air gaps to keep it bouyant. then overlay that with layers of tarpauline and silicone. Now you have your bedrock, add some dykes around the perimeter and fill in the rest with a truly huge ammount of soil. you could probable even embed shipping containers into the bedrock to give yourself more usable space. You'd need most of your space for food production, energy harvesting and water capture and refining. But it could be done.
I suppose you'd want tidal generators on the bottom and some series of biodiesel engines. Your primary crop would probably want to be marijuana, grows very fast, multiple uses and a relatively good cash crop to boot.
If i were doing it, i'd figure out someway of building a geodesic dome (or something similar) over the whole island, helping to deal with storms and huge waves. From there on out, your pretty much hoping you dont capsize or start leaking.
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because the lack of it encourages comments.
If you wish to be given karma for your topic, have the actual topic as little more than a headline and then expand on that within a reply.
i.e
Fabulous new invention by plutonium11
check this out guys, it can fly upside down!
reply by plutonium11
this new frisbee can go both ways, check out the link
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as for my leanings, if we are workign within the current system, then i would agree with visible. If we are establishing a new system, then i am open to suggestions, but strongly support a benevolant dictatorship, headed by yours truly
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swesome, the stoned dome has gone 360! The weed bubble country, adrift on the seas in geodesic bliss
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I hope it is england vs italy, now theres some countries that know how to hooliganise
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gregmills, oh how your words have been twisted!
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Snow crash is the awesomest ever, changed my life
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well you could turn the weed into biodiesel for generators and motors.. you could also use solar batteries to split sea water into hydrogen and oxygen, not alot of energy back for your input, but you could store hydrogen for energy later and use the oxygen for diving.
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mmm, but local cops aint like military. You are no danger to them my friend.
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I whole heartedly agree with Fibs.
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"So, we've established that the information you receive via your senses is real. Woot!"
when did we establish that? im sorry did i miss that whole bit? how did we establish that?
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Admin Jawad has repeatedly expressed his concern over violating the prvacy of users, that would be a primary deterent for location or marital status tabs. The thing is, all of the section titles on your profile are editable, so you can put whatever information you want up here. But requiring members to enter those kind of personal details can turn off many many people. If i had been required to enter all of those details when i joined, i would not have joined. But i do see the direction your heading, and it might be possible to develop a non essential section that users could join. But it would create division between those who wanted to join and those that didn't. It would also change the whole feel of the site, turning it into more of a dating site.
I personally despise "asl", if someone types those three letters to me in chat i stop speaking to them immediately.
I dont think it should make any difference, and ultimately i guess i feel kinda jealous that 18/f/cali gets all the attention, when the chances are she is truly 40/m/massetussus
People dont have to put up pictures of themselves, many here dont, and how do we know they aren't female? who really cares?
Yes it would be good to get female opinions here, but we allready have some here, i think the best thing we can do is not make a big deal out of it.
I guess i worry that having orientation, gender and marital status tabs may turn shuzak into a dating site.
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I dont think we should expect that at all, even once uploaded (
which is what i am guessing your headed at ati) most people will retain the part of the brain that controls religious experience ( i imagine we will stimulate it as a kind of drug). Following the singluarity line, eventually we may end up worshipping ourselves, or the collective.
Personally, i allready see Atheism as a form of self worship
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so you plan to make us all borg? hows that gonna work?
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Gregmills, who controls your life? Who do you turn to for strength? who can be blamed for your choices?
You, its all you. You are the creator of your own reality, lord of your own world and master of your own fate. Once we are uploaded and functioning within limitless virtual realities, we shall be as gods, serving and worshiping ourselves. The only thing greater than the self, is the collective of all selves. Allthough, without proof that others exist, Even the collective may not be real.
Each day we sacrifice animal flesh and the bodies of plants unto ourselves, in hope of good harvest and good health. We are selfish creatures, most of our lives are spent in the service of our selves.
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lol, i suspect it will not be safe for much longer, asbestos used to be safe too, so did ddt
Until then, we should start sending smokers into space
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at 1 meter, i can see what the average person can see at 80 meters.
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see with my mates its allways been three draws to a drag, but i have run into heaps of two hitters.. some people just take one draw, others puff on it until you have to smack em in the head. 2 or three are most common tho..
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there allready is one
the new ideas community
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If i am part of your imagination, then a part of you wants to know as well.
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lol, i mean "chic" said, sheek. not chick lol
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now theres a site thats born to be troll ridden if ever i heard of one that was. Are you kidding me, a whole site full of virgins? you could sell tickets to that shit..
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shuzak dating service
a meeting of minds
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biglew, it grows mushrooms right?
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hello, atis been groping around for the zip for a long time, care to help him out?
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lol zen, just dont get your pussies mixed up!
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i can see so many arguements against that point, by i am not going to play devils advocate, we have religious types here for that.
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well thread owners can allready moderate to an extent, they can delete comments they see as off topic and give karma to usefull responses, comment deletion never gets used because it is seen as rude, but there is the function here..
I could teach:
MUSIC
theory: basic, medium or advanced
composing: basic, medium or advanced
guitar: basic or medium
singing: basic or medium
recording: basic or medium
also orchestration and transposition
TECHNICAL STUFF
electronics
hydraulics
pneumatics
small motors and compressors
medical equipment
dental equipment
COMPUTERS
all versions of windows
networking
enterprise server support and build
desktop support and build
DESIGN
theory
programs
There are also many many related fields that i could have input on, music would be my prefered topic as i have allready taught in that field before and have class notes and printables prepared... somewhere...
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Oh yeah
all those problem solving and leadership courses i've been on could be of use as well.
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Zenmonk
your that guy!
on slashdot and digg
you know, the one that always brings in the canned joke
awesome, we are complete lol
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i'd like one of those remote control dildos, but on wheels and with a camera
so i could cruise around to different girls houses, stopping in at the carwash on the way of course
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well about we have a teaching community with a chat room in it, the chat log could be publicly viewable and the number of people present could be seen. Whenever class size reached a certain point a lecture could begin, or at a prearranged times.. When the lesson is concluded, the chat log for that lesson is posted as a new topic in the community.
Or else a video lesson could be posted and then chat and a thread could be used to discuss its content.
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no, or if i have, the feeling was not mutual.
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i like the branding
Oh and i just thought, i have finished tonnes of computer games and could probably provide help getting through them
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but how truly did you believe it?
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Jonas, i wouldn't be throwing those statistics around lightly, that is ammunition for a flame war if ever i saw one. Do you have a link to the quote or study?
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my knowledge of its non existence could lead to the idea of suicide? surely that lends relevance to the question.
I am just curious, i mean we have a crack team, many of the worlds brightest gathered here from various fields, can any one of us actually prove anything?
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if you did lacey, would you still be a virgin?
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but its not someone else... I've heard tell that riding bikes can lead to losing ones virginity, so i guess boning clones would too. that leads me to an interesting question, do you loose your virginity to lesbian sex?
*notices the line he has just crossed* oh! i thought it was a race! i still win tho.. right?
I agree with you lacey, i think it would be incest, unless there was a significantly large arbitrary genetic difference. But determining how large that difference would need to be could be tricky. Probably something for legislation to determine.
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something - an object, being, idea or concept
prove - provide a logical arguement that gives certainty to the actuality of something
exist - to be, within a reality or construct.
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born again virgins
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they guess, but what would it matter
they still got the illusion of sleeping with a virgin who could give head, so what do they have to complain about?
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not really, thats basically a logical turing test. Surely i would have to prove my senses existed before getting there.
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well thats your problem biglew, i have recieved and given amazing head i still do, frequently. Sucks to be you, or not.
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thanks lacey, Biglew, i was talking about both.
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yeah we know you crossed a threshold, you allready said you lost your virginity
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that not true gringo
there is
atheist
agnostic
bright
ignostic
solipsist
and thats just off the top of my head, i am sure there are plenty of other godless belief systems
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mm i was unsure wether to count 's' as a syllable
the way i said it it had 5 7 5
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allways were
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I think it would be incredibly hard not to worship a being that was orders of magnitude more sentient than us. It would be like a potent mix of the stockholm syndrome and unintentional hero worship
I'd certainly be smitten by a being capable of caressing every crevase of my mind.
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happy lives
a solipsist
only exist
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dial up
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sorry sajjadi, i can't really understand your question, could you rephrase it?
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i was puzzled by golf for a long time, so i asked my workmates, they informed me that golf was great because of the scoring system. They said the difference between the pros and the ametures is so small that an amature on a good day can beat a pro on a bad day. I cant think of another sport like that. A friend also said "if i play a good game i want to get out and play again, to repeat my triumph. if i play a bad game, i want to get out an play again, to show myself what i am capable of. either way, it is addictive"
As for what i dont believe,
I have begun to think of myself as a solipsist.
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Ati, i was home schooled also. only for a year, but it was a year that left me 4 years ahead of my class when i returned.
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oh man, that would be horrible, i am a canberran, and i would be so pissed off if i lost my accent. In fact it is one of the things that has kept me away from the US, that and all the retards. The US actually scares me shitless, its all too easy, too easy to be fat, too easy to be selfish, to easy to slip between the cracks.
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thanks josh! i'll go scope some beeps.
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ani difranco - as is
When i look around, I think this is good enough
And i try to laugh at whatever life brings
but when i look down, i just miss all the good stuff
and when i look up, i just trip over things.
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meh, it is pretty much propoganda in my eyes.
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aw josh! you skeeted all over my thread! now ill have to wash the fucker...
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ooo! the terrorists are coming! better hand over all our civil liberties to the authorities! its ok, they just want to help, like jack bauer!
All american law enforcement man to the rescue!
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can i get a definition check on "love" before posting?
Philosophy - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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fibonacci's wench is mine
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Quantumbeep, unless you could reverse sort them as well, displaying all topics with 0 karma.
This is only one of a range of ideas i have put forward regarding navigation, this would be another tool to help us navigate
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bah, it will never be the same, but that is not the point, why did you like those games in the first place? Surely you weren't enraptured by the shoddy grey box between your control and your tele.
If you want acceptance from your friends, your not going to get it, even if you bought a mint condition console, their console from the eighties will always be better in their eyes.
The modded controls would help, but not completely.
ROMS arent always exactly the same thing anyway, some are shoddier, some have higher resolutions, often there are region specific versions that may be totally impossible to track down.
Chasing consoles with ROMS is as pointless as comparing butter with i cant believe its not butter. There is fuck all difference and they both suck. I love playing old school games, i love a bit of the golden axe, double dragon or alex kid, but i would never claim they are better than modern games. Because they are not. If little pimply you from back in the day could shoot forwards to the preset day, you would jizz your jeans at the sight of oblivion, there is no way old school you would think that J-bird is better than Gears of War.
And I dont buy the whole "gameplay focus" line, todays games have huge teams of people working for years on gargantuan projects, the tiniest mini game in zelda twilight princess, has better gameplay focus than all of the levels of digg dugg or hard hat mack combined. Designers have learnt from those old games, and consistently surpass them.
We just think old games were better, just like we allways look back on the good old days. old school console games hold a place in our hearts because of what they meant to us at the time, the memories they envoke. Emulators are only ever a shadow of that glory, sometimes they can hold us, suspend our disbelief. But the simple truth is, you are not a kid, and you did not just bounce of the walls with delight after killing the final pirate boss on Donkey Kong Country.
Answer=No
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I think there are too many different types of geeks for there to be a business best suited to them. Individual companies vary greatly in their intergration of intelligent passionate people, and there are good and bad ones in every field.
The answer can only be decided on an individual basis, what ever you field of geeky expertise, that is probably the right direction for you. Next step is finding the company ready to harness and compliment your drive.
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lol oh yeh.. the contest, this was meant to be my baby, and i have left it, alone, crying in the cold.
Well seeing as Bonk Bonk is the only person who entered in the alotted time period, he wins by default.
Congratualations Paul!
Your 100 Karma will arrive shortly, in the meantime.. what is the next topic, when does it end, and most importantly, what must we call you until the next winner is crowned?
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"ahh the two sweetest words in the english language.. DE FAULT DE FAULT! "
-Homer J Simpson
The Contest - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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braaaaaaiiins
*lurches*
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So, our winner has entitled himself "Hail, Bonk Bonk God of Power"
Everyone must refer to him as such until the next winner is announced.
So people, now we wait with baited breath as Hail, Bonk Bonk God of Power prepares the next epic challenge in the saga of the contest.
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Thankyou Hail, bonk bonk God of Power! This one is going to be awesome, anyone can write a haiku And with 100 karma up for grabs, who wouldn't enter something?
oh, i should add that the winner also gets to decide the theme of the next contest
people, given the way the last contest ended, you might want to get your submissions in sooner rather than later
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well we have a new theme again this time it is Haiku! what do we need to do to get a poll ready for the fourth contest?
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thousands?
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redstar, possible sign? sounds like you are a fully fledged child of the machine, why not give up the ghost and start working at macdonalds? sheesh, an ipod? next you'll be collecting ivory back scratchers!
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High speeds are only an issue for beings with physical forms
Humans are ill prepared to meet beings without physical forms
How could you tell if a incorporeal life form was infront of (or even in) you right now?
As soon as we can upload and replicate ourselves we can begin broadcasting individuals into space, but will we? what if a hostile race got hold of our blueprints? on that note, we are broadcasting so many channels into space, we are basically just hoping that there is nothing hostile listening.
Our bodies, magnificent engineering feats tho they are, are pretty low tech in the scheme of things. We can only move in one direction through time, in fact, we can't control our movement in any dimension above the third. Given there are 10 or 11 dimensions, we are not really doing that well.
Ati, you say that there is no proof, but the principle of minimal impact would surely require no proof be left.
I know i wouldn't be advertising my arrival on an inhabited planet, who knows what a foreign life form is capable of? perhaps they would sever my head in greeting, there could be any number of bizzare social quirks of which i am completely unaware. I'd study them for a significant period of time before alerting anyone to my presence, and i do not think i would ever publicly announce my presence at all. crowds are hard to predict, especially alien crowds, i wouldn't want to trigger a mob..
And by significant period of time, i'd probably be thinking in millions of years. The only reason we know how to interact with any of the other creatures on this planet is because we have spent millions of years evolving along side them. a visitor would need to research a myriad of organisms within our enviroment before they could understand how we work.
If you showed up on earth a few million years ago, would you start communicating with the monkeys? or wait until they evolved into humans, or beyond?
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hip hop, trance, happy hardcore, psycadelia, and classical
With the occasional bit of random pop culture thrown in for fun.
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Ati, a weak arguement perhaps, but would you announce your presence on an inhabited planet?
We are more than likely so different from any alien life form that extensive periods of enviromental and social observation would be required before any meaningful interaction took place.
The only thing i am saying with this arguement is that we should expect no proof either way.
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My big toe has whole websites devoted to it, that however does not say much for my meta tarsel's reasoning capacities.
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Infected Mushroom is the best.
Im aussie..
I dont know of tigger, well i have a mate called tigger who is a dj, i doont think hes the one your talking about tho..
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yes i would want all knowledge and all brain power to deal with it all.
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i had to microwave my fingers just to write this its so cold.
Quantum Mechanics - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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weed, shrooms, morning glory, datura, lsd, mushies, fungi, san pedro, peyote, exstacy, pixie dust, cocaine and speed.
i have also eaten more perscription drugs than i can possibly name, months munching on bags of mixed meds. I developed a fondness for valium and ritolin, lithium sucked.
anyway, thats all i can remember for the moment, i am sure more will come to me tho..
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David, i believe it started in december.
Maccam, really? i find there are too many threads to keep up with.. *shrugs*
Sinister Cider, welcomlor
Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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yeah i know man, im just playing with ya
seriously, McKenna himself didn't believe in Time Wave Zero. The whole theory is just a bunch of unproven assumptions.
if anyone wants to look into this, here is Mckennas own words on the theory. And here is a link to a javascript version of McKennas Time wave programs.
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nup, im getting blanks.. *shrugs*
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da poss is 'ere
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Posting topics in this community seems to work, perhaps it is only new communities that cant be posted in
Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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I can post in news, i topic i created a few days ago, but not in nerds, one i created today.
I am sure this will be sorted out soon, in the meantime, perhaps everyone should try posting in some of the old communities, they cover most things anyway
Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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I originally came here by way of digg a few months ago, hi new guys, glad you could join us
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Netlycos, I would not dismiss Australia on the basis of just Sydney, we are a huge and varied place.
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I wish i could keep ati as a gaurd dog at my place, i could set him on the early morning churchy knockers.
What Is A Geek? - Posted By poss - Karma received: 2 |
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thanks Jawad
Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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i dont think it should be replaced by interesting topics, but it might be good to see a few good posts, to give an idea of the content inside..
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 2 |
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I think that if there are ufo's over iran, they are probably US aircraft.
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my nizzle!
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I now drive a mitsubishi magna station wagon, its a V6, so its got guts, and it can fit five people and all their stuff on a mad mission down the coast
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oi davis, log in so people can give you karma
What Is A Geek? - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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mine are:
1: copy long posts before hitting submit, they sometimes get lost.
2: hang out on chat, many of our best discussions happen there.
3: if you are having trouble with anything, ask someone, any of the regulars would be glad to help.
4: dont be afraid to make suggestions, Jawad listens and has instituted user ideas before. For instance. i kept bugging him about a history function, and now we have one
5: use your history tab on your profile, you can even use other peoples history functions.
6: browse other peoples profiles, long term members often have links on their profiles to all the best threads
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 3 |
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i have no personal experience with this, but i am bothered by content protection
Cutting Edge Computer Hardware - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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leandro, Admin Jawad has indicated on numerous occasions that karma will eventually become a form of currency, i dont think people would be happy if they lost their hard earned karma just because they couldn't get online for a week
I see what your saying about the oligarchy, and perhaps we could develope a page with the current top posters, so it is possible to make that distinction
Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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well its a toss up Jawad, yes if there was no sign in page we might get more traffic, but it will mean alot of "guest" posts, people have allready stated their reluctance to have discussions with someone who isn't logged in. lets ask the new people what they think.. any ideas folks?
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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Jawad, if no one is using those buttons on the front page, maybe you should make them the profile buttons instead.
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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I was thinking of like marbles, slap bands and slinkys. But i guess mesh tops do qualify as a fad lol, those shirts just make me think of "im too sexy for my shirt" lol
Social Sciences - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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thanks for fixing that Jawad
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Nadeem, those carricature gods are not as likely because less people believe in them. There has been less effort imbued into them, like in terry pratchett's "small gods".
I also disagree that looking for God is a waste of time, I mean, what if someone found him. The concept of a God is so massive that it requires that we search for one on the off chance there is one somewhere.
I'd hate to think there was a benevolent creator who spoke english and we missed him because we weren't looking.
Supernatural - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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Perhaps there should be an automatic lottery for places in chat. how many people logged in at once can chat take before it outs the site? leave a bit of room for the extra traffic on the threads and then boot idlers out after two minutes instead of five.
yeh.. Just let a few people onto chat..
perhaps we could even run a generic javascript chat client linked to a chatroom on irc, letting us redirect the waiting people into some form of chat, even if it isn't the real thing. Due to the random nature of the lottery, you would have some regulars stuck on irc explaining stuff to the swarms of guests, but you would at least have some of the visitors allowed into chat proper. The server would live, the chat would live, and chaos could ensue, in the resounding din of chat.
Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 2 |
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lol sump wrestler!
classic!
Bonk Bonk, nah man, its all good, its like being in a zoo, or a fishbowl. Just smile and wave at the crowds!
sure it feels a bit like a bus load of tourists rocking up to you favourite pub, when your having a nice chat and a beer, but the rush will subside, and even if it doesn't, lets bust out a game of beer pong and make a party of it ey?
Shuzak's Collaborative Program - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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lol hello, i think more about you than your factorial program is unstable mate
nah seriously, get a better program.
Programmers - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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I get the feeling this is a very geeky joke, but i cant be fucked finding a pen to see what it is
hello, give us a picture of it!
Quantum Mechanics - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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So we seem to have established that humans cant live without it but that was only half of my question
Surely in this vast span of galaxies there is some place where interaction does not require political dialogue, self intrest or internal monologue that seem everpresent here. We are but one example of conciouss form, awash as a mite in a sea of space, there must be some other way to exist besides this.
can conciouss interaction exist without politics?
or is politics universal?
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lol, her mum always has the quick retort to those kinda shenanigans
Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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mmm special substances...
Conspiracy Theories - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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i dont know, havent seen the movie
Philosophy - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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gringo, you must like being flumoxed
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Gringo, the correct average energy and water ratio is 1kg of beef to 1 square kilometer of grain.
Jared, I would disagree that the further degredation of livestock affected land is the best use for it. For instance, in Australia we have no native hooved animals. Our native grasses and other vegetation can not survive even a relatively short pressence of cattle. Our northern wetlands are murkier and muddier than ever before due to feral water buffalo, much of our prime agricultural land is rapidly turning into salt plains due to the intense european farming practice we hve been using on our fragile land. In our situation, we should move to farm kagaroos and other animals with padded feet.
The question of meat is an incredibly intricate one, I was a vegetarian for 7 years before resuming meat intake, and i did not take the decission lightly.
the problems with meat are this:
cruelty
Many animals are slaughetered inhumanly, even in situations where relatively human methods are used there are frequently missfires and imperfect technique used, leading to live animals in severe pain being mutilated while alive. This happens far more regularly than you would believe. Often times this cruelty is extended beyond the slaughterhouse, with some farmers treating cattle poorly if they are to be slaughtered.
energy
This issue spans the entire product life, and incorperates feeding, maintenance, shipping, proccessing, packaging and consumption. There is an inherent energy loss when coverting primary food sources (plants) into secondary food sources (animals), this energy loss is massive and compounded by all the other extra costs associated with processing meat.
water
It is easy to think that growing grain would use more water than growing cows, but it doesn't. In fact, the reverse is true, Cows consume a huge ammount of plant material in their lifetimes, and all those plants needed water. In addition to the water drunk and eaten by the cows you also have the water contaminated by their waste and their movement.
social
The very production of our food is like a dirty little secret that no one likes to talk about, and that kind of obsfucation disconnects us from our enviroment, providing prepackaged food, no questions asked. If we were proud of our food production, our society would be a different place.
Another issue under this category is Inequality, The huge ammount of resources involved in creating beef for your plate could have been used to provide food for hundreds of people. The over production of evergy intensive meat limits the massive overproduction of energy efficient foods. While we allready overproduce, and much of it goes to waste, the scale of the production increase possible without meat would provide incentive to distribute our excess.
philosophical
We are a developing species, and part of our development is understanding our superiority. We are currently collectivly very egotistical in our approach toward all other species, but as the field of xenopsycology progresses we are begining to develope intelligence and sentience tests that are showing results in surprising places, it seems that allmost all animals are smarter than we have given them credit for. Many of the animals we use for food are now being shown to have complex emotional and social lives. At some point we will have to accept their intelligence and give them stronger rights.
As for the most effective tool to alter the current state of play?
I think both arguements put forward so far have merit, but are seeking different ends.
If your sole purpose is to minimise animal cruelty, then contributing to the growth of an organic market is a logical step.
If, however, you are concerned with ending the consumption of meat, then abstaining from purchasing any type of meat is again a logical step.
The problem with the second solution is the relatively small ammount of people with strong enough concern to out weigh their hunger.
Long term, your best bet is probably building a strong organic market and using its prevelance as an educational tool. At a point where organic and halal meat are widely demanded, then you may have enough of a market impact to try boycotting meat.
Thinking practically, even if YOU dont eat meat, you should still be trying to ensure everyone else at least eats organic. If that means buying the one tray of organic meat at your supermarket, thereby encouraging the store to put out two trays, thereby increasing the market share and shelf awareness safe meat, then that may be nessacary.
The last word, for me, on meat consumption is this.
When identifying carnivores and herbivores in the fossil record, we use the ration of incisors to molars to determine an individuals eating habits. So it follows, that to determine how much meat you should eat, just look at your teeth.
you have four canines and a couple of incisors for dealing with meat and tough plants. The rest are all molars, for chomping on plants. We are omnivores, but meat should make up a relatively small part of our diet.
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I've added some stuff, just to get us going..
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my knees and ankles are screwed, one knee took a baseball bat and they both copped a hammering from tomato stakes and years of skating. I once tried to jump a shopping tolley on blades, i didn't make it and my knees took most of the impact.
I have taken a cricket bat to the head, been kicked in the head by an adult on a swing when i was little, fallen off my fathers shoulders during basketball, I fell from the top of a pram as a child as well leaving me with a harry potter scar.
I have a ten cm scar down my spine from where i fell off a rope swing as a kid. I have a scar on my hand from where i was hit by a car. I have a scar on my leg where i fell into the sewer in Dili. On two seperate occasions i fell from a bike and had a handle bar go up my nose, leaving tearing scars.
I have been hit with bats, bars, knives, bikes, bottles, walls and cars but i have never broken a bone (touch wood)
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As for the question, bruises, grazes and small cuts heal quite quickly, and dont hinder you much at all. Torn ligaments and serious sprains tend to play up for a long time. Medium to deep cuts can generally heal closed fairly quickly but have a tendancy to come apart again if you exert yourself.
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"we"? i didn't kill shuzak! lol
Shuzak's Collaborative Program - Posted By poss - Karma received: 2 |
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Paul, Hitler did not ravage europe by himself, it was his supporters and underlings. He was democratically elected, and had less people initially supported his ideals then the war would not have played out the way it did.
Paul, Peace is not the cure to war, it is the alternative.
Military Strategies and War - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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allright, at first i had a little trouble being taught about the fourth spacial dimension by someone who mispelt dimension three times, but i went and checked up on it.
He is right, allthough it is not the easiest explaination i have ever seen. Bonk Bonk, time is used by eistein and Poincare as a 4th spacial dimension, when used in this way, the fourth spacial dimension is treated as a fifth.
Anyone see the simpsons episode where they discover the third dimension? this is just like that, infact, here is an image that looks very similar to the one proffessor frink drew in that episode. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tesseract.gif
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agreed ati
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I think that a daily reward for being here is better than a penalty for not coming.
If we were to recieve 1 karma per day, just for being here and logging in, i think it would be a return incentive and participation reward
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AEST (Canberra) GMT+10
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where have i heard this before?
I have come to think that Shuzak is not anywhere near as geeky as it claims to be. This is no fault of its participants, it is he nature of the beast.
There is no limit on which communities can be created, there are no moderators, currently anything goes on shuzak. I even started the sex community purely to test wether anyone would stand up and say anything, to see if there was a line that could be crossed. There isn't. Shuzak is an inherent free for all, A random collection of intrest groups that will gradually evolve until it covers everyones interests.
currently It is easy to see which content is popular, and it generally isn't very geeky. You have flagged this as a problem jawad, but is it?
All we need is more tools to allow us to filter out the content we see as irrelevant. If everything goes well, we will eventually have so much content flowing past us that eliminating some or even most of it as off topic will still leave us with a sufficent ammount of stimulating topics.
This is not really a recent phenomenon Jawad, the majority of communities on shuzak are not inherently geeky. but then again most people here are not completely geeky either.
Jawad, i realise your initial intent was to create a community for geeks. But that is not what you have created. Shuzak is a collection of forums on every topic imaginable. If you want this place to be geeks only, you better do something to change it, but what? we have talked about entrance tests and other solutions, but do you really want to alienate and exclude people who dont quite fit your mould? isn't being a geek all about breaking the mould anyway?
Do you remember me talking about meta communities?
If we had meta communities, one could choose to look only at the sciencey topics, seeing only new content in that area. Add to that a favourites function, and we should be able to easily see the latest posts in our favourite communities with ease.
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 5 |
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yeh, i recieved a private zak. exact same text as above.
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I've had bogong moths, they taste like peanut butter, witchetty grubs taste like chicken
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how funny would it be if there was a transexual stripper out there somewhere (possibly mexico), had their strip song as the theme song to Transformers. That would be the bestest.. like
*get the tune in your head first*
Transformers, Robots in disguise
Transformers, More than meets the eyes
Trannybots fight the evil force of the heteroceptecons,,,
lol man i should so use that in a video.. fricken awesome..
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Jawad, i also think charging more for community creation would be an easy way to ensure new communities were genuinly geeky, Or that they are sufficently important to warrant spending the karma.
another way to get past it is through moderation, community owners could be required to moderate their threads. New communities could be made to need your approval.
There are many ways to crack down on it if you think it is a problem.
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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good? no way, on my brand new dual core 2ghz 2GB laptop, vista bluescreened within 20 hours of owning it, all i had done was rip some cds using media center. It went into reboot loop and i had to yank the battery to get it to restart normally.
It is terrible at legacy apps and backwards combatability, drm is fucked, uac is annoying, aero chews through resources, the whole thing is a teetering heap of bug ridden bloatware in my opinion.
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Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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there were free settlers too, brought on the offer of free land.
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i think thats an awesome idea Joe, maybe you should start a topic asking people to volunteer as proffessors of shuzak. Get a feeling for who is skilled at what, and comfortable to teach
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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Windowlicker - Aphex twin
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wow, what a coincidence!
she offered me the same deal!
what are the odds?
Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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thankyou for coming,
Just earlier tonight i told fibs i needed to do some memory exercises
perfaect timing
Memoryskills101 - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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and could we exist without it?
Could we ever think of a better way?
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Amen
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I think navigation is crucial.
Communities are the basis of shuzak, each one should be able to function individualy as a complete working forum. That means sticky posts, sub communities and moderators.
The interconnectivity between these varied communities is the key to shuzak. I am a member of various forums around the net, But getting between them and staying updated about each is a pain.
Shuzak solves that problem.
My vision of the future shuzak..
I log in, a site map comes up, showing all the communities (through the use of metacommunities) and their current status.
In this screen i can see the threads with most activity across all forums.
at this point i can enter my profile.
Upon entering my profile i see the people I have set as favourites in the current friends section (with a link to see all friends).(ala myspace) The displayed communities would be ones i had favourited. I would add one more floating box below those two showing my four favourite threads at the moment. This would include the text of the latest post for each one.
The html of my profile is editable, i can change it to exactly how i'd like.
People would all pick a few favourite topics each day, and the number of people who selected it as a favourite would be tallied, giving us a new way to judge good threads. (ala Youtube)
Favourite points would come and go, but the overall number of times favourited would help indicate the relative worth of an old thread in a sea of old threads.
We need to increase traffic to community pages, each one should be a unique hive of activity. Once we have enough content, one should be able to spend days in one community looking at old threads.
One way of doing this would be to intergrate existing forums, so that Shuzak becomes the mother of all forums. Copying content from established sites and encouraging the members to use shuzak as their content management tool.
So we start contacting forums, philosophy forums, science, gaming and news forums, talk to owners and see if they'd be willing to enter into a partnership.
The same can be done with chat, every community could have a chat site, but we dont need to populate them, there are allready thousands of chat rooms out there on irc, so why dont we just use a javascript chat app to let communities be directly connected to irc chans. We ask the chan owners if its ok and we may even find they use the community as a kind of sticky page for chat items.
Further down the track i could see our profile pages being turned into an icq style toolbar. so that it hovers over whatever topic we are reading..
Like i have said before, i see shuzak as an overarching search and contact system between various forums.
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Con, yes, myspace and Geocities are example of how customisable profiles can go wrong, so we learn from those mistakes. I am saying we should charge people to upgrade or change their profile, charge them karma, so they are less likely to make something utterly disgusting.
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Ati, dear sir, this is not an aristocracy! i find the idea utterly preposterous! Now shine my shoes Leandro! lol
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It's a shame we have a vicious midget running the joint, mind you, better than a texan retard, ey?
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lol sorry CM, that was me signed in as fibs
Entertainment Fans - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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Zelda
wii sport
wii play
Splinter Cell
Rayman
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CM, you should start a new thread on Wii reviews, and then paste those reviews there, then you or others can add more as they happen upon them.
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lol Con, i stay up thinking about it you know!
@mad ant, agreed, i think we may end up going strait to mind controled interfaces for just that reason..
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perhaps we could harness its annoying power, like, if you hadn't given anyon karma for 15 minutes it could start yelling at you in jawads voice "KARMA!!!"
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Mine would be:
Drums - Danny Carey - Tool
Bass - Les Claypool - Primus
Rythm Guitar - Kurt Cobain
Lead Guitar - Jimmi Hendrix
Vocals - Zak Delarocka - RATM
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but what is the allternative to reasoning?
surely you cant be suggesting murder or forced enlightenment?
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Bonk Bonk.
their colaboration would indeed be phenomenal
tickle me steven hawkins anyone?
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here here my brother! i can almost feel my future neural interface tingling in anticipation,
Cognitive Science - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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this post is to finish the sentance left abandonded by my comma.
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lol lacey, classic gold!
*robot voice* push me, and then just touch me, until i can get my singularity
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lol, human test subjects?
I might let someone else do that one.
At least for the cognitive parts.
I don't mind doing tests for memory
But you really want the chips to be perfected before you start shoving them in your head.
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Agreed, but why stop at pictures?
everyone should be able to upload files, making their profiles into custom webpages. Like myspacee but without the crippled css. Almost like angelfire, but intergrated into shuzak.
Communities should also be able to customise their pages.
And, it should cost karma to upload stuff.
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It costs 3 per communtity and nothing per thread.
Every time you give someone 1 karma, you get 0.1 back.
In addition to this, for each karma given out in a thread, 0.2 is given to the thread creator.
It is far easier to obtain karma than to spend it, Admin Jawad plans to address this issue soon.
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Yes, i posted it in multiple communities, I think it belongs in the military strategies and war forum, regardless of the owner.
How is Josephs ownership of the ocmmunity a problem? What better place to start a revolution?
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That is surely for him to decide.
Do you have an argument strong enough to win him over?
It is people such as him that need to be given reason to question.
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@ sabina: agreed
@ fibs: Shuzak is a girl now? woah, i am not sure i feel about that. I thought Shuzak was kinda genderless.
How would you feel if i categorised you without asking first?
I'm going to start a topic, asking what sex Shuzak is, and let Shuzak decide for itself.
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me too guys lol
so i am assigning an end date
allright so its like thursday allready.
Lets make it next monday.
12:00 GMT + 0
Monday Second of April 2007
And so its easy, we'll accept entries from whenever its mid day next monday where you are
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i think the problem is that geeks are elitest, and that is not really the best way to collect friends.
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I've eaten Mud, Blood and Crud.
but the worst would have to be a shot of mop water.
My friend had an apartment, there was a party every night, and no one ever cleaned, for two years. When he first arrived it had been concrete floor, mopable. But after enough crap built up we gave up on mopping and put a layer of carpet over the floor. This had to be done twive, like lasagne. Anyway, the original mop bucket still remained, two years old, and as i said this was a party house. People had spewed in this bucket, bong water, beer, cigarette buts and who knows what other nasties.
One night one of our friends returned from america, seeing as there were allready 100 people in his ground floor one bedroom flat (spilling out the windows and onto the road), he decided to initiate us into the fraternity he had joined while away.
There were many tasks, but one of my duties was drinking a shot of the putrid mop water, the exact shot had been hand chosen for its putridness, it included ciggette buts and floaty bits.
It was utterly disgusting, the foulest thing i have ever consumed, by far.
But i was so drunk that i did it without question, before running off to do my next task.. Shitting into oncoming traffic.
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its true yue, and i gotta say i use them in rts's for controllign troops. Besides which, they have all of the alternate symbols, i use them a fair bit.
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no, not unless it is manually altered
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yeah! she likes me for me!
Take that jock retards!
I gots the brains to bring the babes!
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lol, ok guys, but by a similar token, wouldn't all of humanity be related in some form. Is all sex, with anyone, racial(special?) incest?
And if your clones are different people to you, what level of difference is required before they are classified as completely independant beings?
How much genetic difference is there between different blood lines? Could such a difference be engineered?
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I agree with you Rob, i have a nearly identical view for the future of shuzak.
I think some of the things required to get us there are:
A "Favourites" section on your Profile, like the panes on the right.
An easy way to Navigate between communities, I envisige a Flash page, with The current community in the middle (with info on new and hot topics in the community) with related commuinities clustered around it. Clicking on a community will center the view on that community and generating a new cluster of related communities.
I think there needs to be a New User account creation page that asks about your interests and suggests communities and users you might like. So that as soon as you join up you are instantly provided with relevant content.
I love the digg swarm and think it is a brilliant example of how conent can be delivered.
I want Shuzak to be faster, and currently the infrastructure just can't handle a large ammount of content. People must be able to access every thread on shuzak with ease.
Shuzak is a network of forums, and must be easily traversible.
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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isn't bonk bonk hx10?
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Sabina and Bcoles have been on fairly regularly lately.
Suggest Shuzak! - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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is that 29?
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yeah.. so can you bone your clones clone?
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i use the square numbers for directions in some games and for data entery tasks.
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haha! $2 cheesburger ho!
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Ati, i did say SOME games
nah like olde school adventure games
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no, we deliberately left you out so you would feel excluded, thereby making it all the funnier when we jump out and shout "surprise!"
naha, im j/k.. everyone forgot you
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that is stupid, a legitimate rticle gets deleted after a couple of days, while some of the stupidest shit gets left for years.
Perhaps we should put in some abstract pictures regarding social networking theory and structure. Fully beef the thing out to like 20 pages
Heres a page on the submit button
" And in this article we wish to hereby and forthwith address the critical and yet much maligned html button labelled submit. This critical feature has been in place since the early days of shuzak, scholars are only now beginning to understand the true sociophsycological significance of this symbolic and spiritualistic tool,
Spiritual Significance
It is thought the early shuzakians saw the submit button as a kind of altar on which they would sacrifice their ideas, indeed the very name of it envokes images of bondage and submission, as if ones thoughts were being bound and delivered before a public forum, where the virgin thoughts would be sliced and devoured. There are multiple submit buttons scattered areound shuzak, and their prevalence once again gives more insight into the minds of those that used them.
Cultural Significance
The submit button is one of the most numerous buttons left in the ruins of the ancient shuzakians, from the sheer volume of submit buttons we can see that submission was a large part of the cultural zeitgeist, the importance of this in other cultural works is now beyond question. A famous early user "Bonk Bonk" was attributed to saying "this stupid submit button is fucked", by which we can see that the altar-like submit buttons may have been used in sexual practices as well as during linguistic sacrices. Perhaps the shuzakians ritualistically fornicated over submit buttons before offering up their minds to the forum, we shall never truly know."
Of course i could keep on adding paragraphs all day, but there i no need, you get the point.
If they don't think there is enough content, we can generate content.
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English, Irish and Scottish. Mostly..
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how many people watch but dont post?
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Rath, well lucky that doesn't happen in reality !
oh wait...
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Women only areas? what, and we make the beard club men only?
How could you possibly ensure there were only women in the women only area anyway?
Do any of the women on Shuzak now have any suggestions?
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18?
i reckon we are 18+ surely we can drink?
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Main Lappy
15.4"
dual core 2ghz
2GB ram (5GB with vista's thumbdrive system boost)
120GB hdd
128mb graphics (bleh!)
all sorts of nifty inputs and attachments:
picks up digital tv, anywhere.
webcam
lightscribe DVDRW
Edirol External Audio Card (with full studio Mic)
Vista
Second lappy
1.7ghz
512mb ram
80GB hdd
64mb video
XP (playing with ubuntu)
17" flat screen desky
1.7ghz
256mb
40GB hdd
64mb video
XP
21" CRT desky (currently disabled)
1.7ghz
128mb ram
20gb hdd
64mb video
1.7ghz
win2000
next purchase will be a good router/storage box.
oh and Fibs has a lappy almost identical to my backup lappy.
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agreed
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Communities are the heart and soul of shuzak and are still very difficult to navigate between.
I think that each community should eventually have a new and interesting topics page to itself.
I firmly believe the history tab was an essential page and has made checking old threads much much easier.
I believe the problems with the usability of communities is definately the next step, We should be able to see the biggest and most active communities at a glance. We should be able to see whether our communities have had any new posts or updates since we last looked at them.
Our best content is hard to find, it should stand out.
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deltree C:
The holy church of Rob - Posted By poss - Karma received: 1 |
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and now we have lost jawad...
Shuzak Current Affairs - Posted By poss - Karma received: 0 |
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lol gringo
there Maddog was meant to be at the begging and have a comma after it, but other than that it makes perfect sense.
"sick as" is Australia slang, it means something roughly equivilant to very good.
oh, and a fringe is the hair covering her forehead.
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nah, i thought you could get a flight that stopped in at sydney, we'd drive down to sydney to meet you, thats only 300kms,,
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we just need to find a reason to declare war on Mars, then you would have all the funding you could need.
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one amongst how many?
just look at interesting topics, nothing is getting as much karma as it used to.
Are the threads not as interesting?
I know i am getting less than i used to, allthough i suspect thats because people think i have too much allready (which i do). It just seems that there are quite a few threads with very little karma.
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its a name Paul, surely it should be in capitals?
either way, i shall respect your wishes and refer to you as maddog where appropriate.
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Lacey, 20 days on, how did quitting sugar work out?
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and for a clone of the opposite sex made from the same genetic material?
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*calls forth the robot devil to do his bidding*
now dance!
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I do hang out here at 4am, its just not your 4am
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two words, beowolf cluster.
"..chips imbedded in the sensory nerves to provide force feedback.."
ati, is that current tech?
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rob, but thats only the ones that are around now, if we were looking at the primordial ooze, that list would be significantly larger.
Mammals, Reptiles, Fish, Birds - Posted By poss - Karma received: 3 |
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"We call em bangs"
why the plural? are you refering to each hair individually?
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fully, it wouldn't be hard to write up a few pages on get ric quick schemes, and doing so would contribute substantially to your earnings
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Science has its fair share of imbedded belief inertia too. We have often seen the majority of respected scientists frown on radical ideas purely because they threatened years of accepted work. It happens, but a group's inability to be flexible and reasses their viewpoint is not a reason to discount the belief system they ascribe to.
Science and religion do haunt the same hunting grounds, belief. You accept science because it gives proof, that is important to you. but proof is less important to others, Some people are perfectly happy to believe in this world and the next without proof. In either case, we are dealing with the same issue, belief. Science and Religion are both belief systems, perhaps science should not be included as a religion, perhaps it should. But whatever its title, Science has largely replaced religion in the hearts and minds of many, and for this reason alone it is worth comparing with religion.
You speak as if the scientific method was all there is to science, it is not. Rightly or wrongly, science has become the set of beliefs commonly accepted as right.
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ugh, blindly follow. never mind the glaring omissions, it was the terrorists, it has been said so many times it must be true.
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nice shit mate, you comming to see fibs, steff and i while your here?
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i wonder how many people you would have to hire to garuntee a cumshot at every moment?
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Paul, there are some really cool names in there, congratualtions on being the new owner of geeks-are-cool.com do you have any plans for it? have you considered redirecting it to shuzak?
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ok, so it seems josh's thread has been hijacked, but the fate thing seems fun, lets have a shot at it
Does fate exist?
well the universe doesn't run purely on deterministic cause and effect, Quantum particles are perfectly capable of behaving entirely randomly. That is a huge blow for the idea of a clockwork universe, but does it rule out the idea of fate?
I guess it depends on your personal definition of fate, and like so many of these kinds of things it is bound by intent.
It is possible that some(if not all) things that happen to us are the result of change elsewhere in the universe, but that in itself is not fate. Fate only comes into it if there is intent behind the forcing of our hand, when we are meant to do something. Does that situation ever happen? Very probably, given the sheer scale of existence it seems logical to presume there is other life spread throughout the universe and that some of it is bound to be billions of years old. So, is there some ancient race or omnipotent individual(s) messing with our lives? It is not impossible, one would have to question why they would want to, but it is not impossible.
Things happen in our lives everyday that were "meant to happen" allmost allways this is the result of a plan devised by ourselves or by other humans. But it would seem that many of our experiences are the result of unintended fate, situations that where generated by an unintentional set of circumstances. While it is possible that there is a supreme being controlling it all, they have certainly hidden their tracks by making it appear to be the result of chance. So we must take the universe for what it appears to be, as we have no proof of what it is.
Fibs, things happen constantly that where the result of some form of planned action, delivering intended results. But we do not have sufficient proccessing power to follow all actions back to their root. We can not currently assertain the intent behind all occurances, we can barely even predict the weather.
All of that being said i will say this, Things have happened in my life that i completely believe happened for a reason. Wether i believe this in hindsight because of the results, it is impossible for me to discern. If there is no fate, there are certainly alot of very strange and highly unlikely circumstances being randomly generated. but then, who are we to judge what is unlikely?
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I am the anime mutant robot giant version of the AntiRob, known as:
Supreme-Ultimate-Happy-Fun-Mega-Anti-Rob-VII
buy my action figure likenesses now, for your personal pleasuring.
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nah, snakes are pretty bad.
They are so intensly deadly, and we have soo many of the worst one here in Australia. Like shit, taipans, those suckers are so fast, accurate venomous and aggressive. The worst is when you meet a snake in the water. Any chance you may have had is pretty much gone, you just gotta act as unthreatening and unappetising as possible.
Or black mambas, able to rear up to your eye level and then chase after you at 20km's an hour. Thats just nuts, it could bite you through the window of a moving car.
I have had some very close calls with red belly black snakes, and i nearly stepped into a nest a sea snakes while i was snorkling through some coral on a remote island in indonesia. Didn't even notice them until i was about to put my feet into a pit of blue striped snakes. That was acarey, i actually got cornered by some sharks on that same swim, and as i was backing away from them, up over the coral, a fricken bird decided it was the perfect moment to land on me, digging its claws into my shoulders and scaring the shit out of me.
I grew up in the bush in australia, and if a snake is non venoumous and smaller than me, i can wrangle it. I don't claim to be steve irwin, but i did spend years in the rainforrest and my name is possum. But if i was caught alone without a stick or machete and a deadly snake came at me, i would be fucked. even with a gun (unless it was a shotgun or an automatic), i would still be screwed. A reared up taipan is too quick to shoot with a pistol, and even if you got its belly, it would still come at you.
crocs are pretty nuts too, if you see them first they are not too bad. But at night, camped near a river, they are seriously scarey fuckers. In addition to their phenomanal chomping strength and huge claws, they are actually very quick sprinters. Easily able to outpace even olympic sprinters. Your only hope is climbing a tree before it eats your legs. Have you ever seen a crocodile roll? It is very disturbing, seeing a fully grown water buffalo being dragged into the river and spun in a furrious underwater tornado of blood until it drowns is a sight one never wishes to see repeated on oneself.
But there are so many creatures able to kill us, i have seen photos of men half consumed by wild bears, not to mention the big cats. A tiger would be impossible to defeat solo without a firearm. And wild dogs, in packs, they would take you out, even with a pistol.
But really, the scariest and dealiest animal on the planet, killing more humans than all the other animals combined, is us. (cliche much?)
Mammals, Reptiles, Fish, Birds - Posted By poss - Karma received: 3 |
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RyeGye, not exactly true though is it? i mean, what about the great american cable car conspiracy?
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what, you expect us to go to melbourne? thats like 1200 kms away
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sorry, 660 kms away still, thats further than england is long
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so rocker guy didn't work out?
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guys, how have we gotten this far without anyone even mentioning 42?
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live rounds?
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personally i tell people the meaning of life is
To
Happilly
Enrich
Existence
or Thee.
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sweet, i get to be the king!
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lol can i be the canned laughter?
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allright, digging robots it is, where do we find them? when is take off?
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sky sharks
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yes, yes i am
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Josh, i just got it too, new laptop. DRM is awful, compatability sucks. But going back to xp definately feels like a time warp now.
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Jared, to follow a similar line, If God is everything, then surely through every act of its existence it would be effecting us. Just as we support trillions of bacteria. No, we don't pay attention to each individual one, but our actions still effect them, and often times quite deliberately.
Do our viruses worship us? should they?
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Ati, I care about ecoli, i know i would do my darndest to exterminate it it if it came near me. I also care about the bacteria that break down my food for me, and i occasionally take supplements and consume food that will help them, am i a benevolent god?
I do not think it is arrogant or absurd to believe in a God, and i also don't think even the christian God is very much like us at all. It is said we were made in God's image, but there is very little text clarifying what that means. It could well be that our sentience is God's aspect in us, and as such every other sentient race would be made in God's image also.
I mean, a sentance like that oculd mean something completely different to what we take it to mean, i.e. what if that passage meant we were made on God's screen (in his image)? Or any other interpretations we have yet to have the metaphors to understand.
Ati, we all believe in something without proof. And from time to time we all construct arguements to defend undefendable positions.
Joseph, we do not need to look outside our planet to find examples of non-human intelligence, our understanding of intelligence and xenopsycology is so poor that we would be almost completely unable to communicate with or even recognise intelligent life if and when we find it. Dolphins, Octopuses, Whales, Elephants, apes, monkeys, and many other species display characteristics belying concious minds that we are yet to understand.
Besides, I do not need to prove life exists elsewhere in the universe, just as i don't need to prove you exist. The chances of either not existing are so extremely low that it is not worth losing thought over. There is such an incredibly higher probability of there being life elsewhere in the universe than there is of you being the person you say you are, but i still talk to you.
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Ati, yeah, we need a HUGE mining operation, bigger than anything ever attempted on earth. Like i said, we have never dug that deep, let alone covering such a vast area. There is also the problem of atmospheric contamination, we would have to ensure our drill bit was in constant quarantine and how would one possibly achieve that? We can't let any organic material from earth or even the martian atomosphere enter the water table, we would also have to keep the bit at the same temperature as the surrounding rock, ice, or water so as not to cause disturbances in the currents or "weather" below.
We would essentially need a sterilised hypodermic needle 3.5 killometers long.
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I have seen numerous solar installs, the trick is, as others have said, the battery array. But once you've got that sorted out you will be all sweet, just don't be expecting to run too much off one panel. They don't produce that much juice.
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Fibs, things like this have happened throughout history. The event you described was a freak storm, an intense release over a very small area, the entire storm, bucketing down feet of hail in the middle of a drought, only effected something like 20 square kilometers. Those kinds of storms are very rare, and increasing in frquency.
I don't know if the planet has gone crazy, does the planet have a mind? If anything, it would probably be justified self defense, not the act of a deranged psyco.
The planet is not ok. Or at least, the surface of the planet as we know it, the biosphere, is not ok.
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of course steffi, i'll be keen to see your entry
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oh ok, i get you now..
well it is only a theory, lets think up some tests and find out if it happens or not.
It just seems like a fairly logical explaination for a set of reported occurances.
I'm happy to accept i'm wrong if the tests show no truth to my idea, and that is more than many theories on the subject can say for themselves
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Joseph, absurd and illogical? Strong words to use on something that can not be proved don't you think?
mate, we all want to have civil conversation here, if you disagree with my point, just say so. State your points clearly and address any confusion you may have seen. There is no need to have such extreme reactions. You are only ostricising yourself, we would all like to build a friendship with you based on mutual respect. We do not agree with you, but respect your right to believe whatever you want to believe, please extend us the same curteosy.
Gringo, Ati and Joseph: peace brothers, these are only words.
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Many people are allready convicted of crimes they do not remember commiting, and other remember killing people they couldn't have. We will be in the same prediciment we are in at the moment. Hopefully whatever the incidence of such things may be, it will be balanced out by the ability to completely scan a persons memories and thought processes. Witnesses would be more reliable, as would heresay.
Like you said, it is all about making it tamper proof. If a brain has been tampered with, its testimony could not be absolutely accepted.
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At the moment I'm digging dawn of war for the pc, rayman for the wii, playboy for the xbox.
Of all time tho, i gotta say Starcraft.
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gotti? never heard that word before..
@Zombella, you love em! I can see you hitchin up with a full wog job having kids and cars, you'd be in paradise lol
*pictures Zombellas head exploding at the thought of it*
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sure, but some relatively small upwellings is a bit different to millions of tonnes of ice stretching deep into the crust.
We have looked all over our planet, and found life everywhere. In the deepest mines, in the coldest and hottest places on earth, there is life.we are hard pressed to find anywhere on our entire planet of harsh extremes that is devoid of life.
Add to this the Methane cycle that has been observed in the martian atmosphere and the liquid upwellings that reach the surface and we have a convincing picture for some form of life beneath the surface of mars.
Here we have confirmation of an ideal enviroment for life, even well developed life, and people are still unsure as to the importance of the discovery.
I will bet my entire life savings that there is life there, and if anyone will take that bet, they are a fool. We can hide behind probabilities and uncertainties. But I am telling you now, Ice that deep will be liquid water, water that has life.
There has been scientific speculation for a long time about a vast underground network of ice on mars. The ammount of water held within the pole is 10-100 times less than what is required to produce large scale errosion effects we see on the surface. This GIGANTIC block of ice is only the tip of the iceberg.
The turing test, if something is capable of mimicking intelligence then we must call it intelligent. Either there is life on mars, or something is mimmicking life. Which is the simplest and most probable answer?
I do not take this call lightly, call me a nut if you will, but as of this moment, i am no longer in any doubt. There is life on Mars.
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lol I'm a nawty boy!
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"But I think that imagining that something like us made everything, is simply absurd."
Ati, j00 wins the internets!
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well then Ati, when we have our imortal replicatable bodies, lets run some tests, with live streaming from the minds of dying clones.
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lol ati
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Mars is thermally inactive Ati? since when?
several
sources
appear to disagree
even Harvard and NASA think there is still some thermal activity in Mars.
This article even hopefully guesses at several hundred feet, or maybe even a mile of ice. But we have 3.5km of it.
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maybe he is saying the soul is really just our conciouness, and since our conciousness is nothing more than perception and memory, he is calling it our perspective.
is that right joseph?
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MS Brain
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lol learning nerd, i'm sure it will be great
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the theory goes, mars became frozen is because it did not have a thick enough atmosphere. But where we have a huge sheath of Carbon dioxide keeping the heat in. Mars has a huge sheet of carbon. And where we rely on the sun, Mars has relied on its own internal heat. Our familiar vistas of sky and soil may be quite unique. Any inhabitant of a water layer on mars would have rock for land and ice for sky.
again i refer to this article from nasa, The magnetic bands of clearly match the magnetic pattern of the undersea magma ridges of our own planet. the same ridges so abundantly rimmed by vents and vent life.
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yup, thats a wog gringo
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infact, it kinda reminds me of someone i know
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lol lacey, no one has said they liked possums, i loose!
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@ Joseph
"It would imply that a set "pattern" exclusively "belongs" to our perception."
I disagree, that is not nessacarily implied at all, it could just as easily imply that our perception belongs to a set pattern which is our brain.
Again i am rephrasing what ati and gringo said, hopefully one of us has said it in a way you respect/understand.
If we have misinterpreted you, please let us know.
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3.5 km's deep.
as in, average depth of earths crust deep
what happens when ice meets magma?
grated, the lack of atmosphere may have led the crust being deeper, but even so, at 3.5 kilometeres down it is getting warm
Our deepest mine only penetrates 2km into the earths crust, and it is getting bloody hot by then.
warm water and thermal energy. And this concoction has been sitting there for how long?
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I didn't really did rocky six, too soppy, too predictable. A whole movie of plotless plot leading up to one disapointing fight. The fight did look like it was strait outa a TV boxing tournament, but even that effect didn't work for me. 2/5
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it seems like nasa are alwqays crying wolf, so when they do actually find real evidence of oceans on mars, no one cares
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i'll give it a shot.
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cant wait to see it yue
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lol, well we might be able to arrange that
anyone have amy other suggestions?
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lol, i like how you counter my worries about having a chip in my brain by telling me it will all be fine, they'll have a suicide clause real appealing
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no! that _you_ silly! i want yue!
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Paul, i am not a religious person, but that was blasphemous.
Here, watch some weeble and bob, get some learning
http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/jazz.htm
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if you've got the money...
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oh dear...
we need to start a movement, save yue!
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I always thought alcohol was the social lubricant, eccies seem to do a similar thing.. i suppose they can both lead to laughter, so maybe its their laughter inducing effects.
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really fibs? how come i don't see him?
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I agree ati
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that is an interesting question sabina, essentially it depends on when Jawad is free, i haven't spoken to him today, but i am guessing somewhere in the 1-2 week range, pending his availability.
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I vote for a poll
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shhh, don'r give away that shuzak is a terrorist front
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really very cool, i'll be keeping a copy of that around
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ewwwww periods!?!? at the end of each sentance??!! what, do you use tampons for pens? YUCK! do have to use periods when speaking too?
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yes ati, but there will be another problem from downloading degrees.. what have you actually learnt? generic degree: math. I mean what was your thesis on? which books did you read? what did you discuss with your classmates while in lectures?
If life is about the journey and not the final destination, then you've just used a teleporter.
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ROFLMAO.. bow chicka bow wow... lol
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(hubba hubba)
shorter girls
younger girls (than me, not like real young)
long hair
nipples that point up.
(wtf!?)
all the leather a pain and cuffs and crap. no thanks.
try hards: if your not real, i cant feel it.
skanks: bitches and dogs.
sluts: inluding slurries and bikes
intoxicated girls: drunk or stoned, you aint gettin boned.
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There will be a critical demmand for medical proffesionals as the baby boomers retire.
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im the same as ati, about five, i've never needed more.
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I hate that shuzak is not permanently implanted into my brain
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lol, perfect
".. I'll have a burger with the lot and.. the universe is exapanding infinitely some chips thanks.."
just like i am anyway
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Agreed, using the names and images of these convicted brutal murderers is in very vary bad taste.
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I am allready working on a few things, but i'll lend a hand if you need, i can do all the above except php and sql
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before someone jumps on me, i just saw this in the discussion about this on digg:
solid, liquid, gas, electric plasma, critical fluid, super fluid, Bose-Einstein condensate, Liquid crystal, Amorphous solid, quark gluon plasma, Neutronium, ect.
At least 11. Granted most are just variations of other states, but Super fluids and Bose-Einstein condensate are quantum mechanical and have no analog. Neutonium only happens in Neutron stars and the quark plasmas only happen at insanely high temperatures for brief periods of time.
Also I didn't take into account electric properties such as superconductive phase transitions.
Duly noted, i shall think before i post
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ati, of course it would function less efficiently, but as conciousness fades, less data needs to be provided to create a believable reality.
Nadeem, well I have slow and fast days all the time, I am keenly aware of how much my mood effects my subjective experience of time.
To poorly paraphrase a quote from "waking life":
did you ever wake up, look at the clock, and find it says 7 o'clock, then you go back to sleep and have one of those endless dreams that seems to go on for hours, then you awake again to find only three or four minutes have passed while you slept.
Nadeem, where did i get the idea? i suppose i thought of it myself, unless you can find someone who said it first.
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I agree with tom, if i get stuck, i just write random crap until eventually i find something i like. in hindisght, some of my best work came was words pulled from between paragraphs of gibberish.
as the creation of the jumble flows through you, it loosens up all the pocketso f inspiration clinging to the inside of your mind. The act of creation breeds inspiration.
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lol@fibs
*throws a sock at kerr dog* your free now kerr doggy, run along
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Hi, my name is Poss and I'm an internet addict. My addiction started at 10, i am now 24 and have been using the internet for 14 years. When Mirc first came out i thought i'd try it out, by the time Mirc had colour, i was hooked. It only got worse from there, mmorpgs, countless bbs's and a string of forgotten email adresses later i am only now coming to terms with the reality of my addiction. I get online whenever i can, even if i am doing something else, i am online downloading something. I gotta git my daily hit of slashdot digg and shuzak, without it i start to get moody and irritable. Now its got so bad i bought a laptop just so i can access wifi hotspots when i'm not near a desktop.
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lol thats nuts Con, 600 percentage points difference sheesh!
I think my highest was 98, and my lowest was -1 (for insulting the teacher as my only answer)
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lol gringo I think Shuzak has enough crazy religions without me adding another to the mix, if there was a holy moment, it was allmost certainly the work of the FSM or Rob, count me out as a candidate for messiah
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*Laughs raucously*
it still won't fit!
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uh.. robot wars ..with lister
but seriously, there are competitions like that in Japan allready, i guess its more Droid than Mech, but still,humanesque robotic beings battling it out.
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The answer seems pretty simple to me, what are geeks except hobby scientists? We dabble in scientific fields all day, and when the battle between science and religion is come, our alleigience is clear.
The scientific method does not allow us to accept false evidence, repeatable experiments must be carried out and a consistent testable theory must be provided, it is the Geek way.
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well i ate pie yesterday? isn't that the tradional celebratory feast?
no, i hadn't even thought of pi day, what a cool day, i love numbery coincidence things like that
Same reason i like humanclock.com
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josh, "gas mileage" lol we don't use either of those words over here, its like hearing someone speak ye olde english
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ahhhhh lol, well then, yes. except without all the crazy animation
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wow rob, who would have thought god was gay?
or a dnd playing martial arts geek for that matter...
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I like string theory, if only because it makes the world so much more like the dorbot of vacuo
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btw gringo, mad props for the princess bride quote up thread
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I pretty much agree with ati, brains are input output systems. Over time our brain collects informations from our senses, two brains over the same period of time will take in vastly different information, the quality, quantity and relevance of the information gleaned from experience is dependant on the the capabilities of the brain and sense organs.
Input data, run through all relevant connections, output data. It is the speed and number of connections that determines intelligence.
In the case of the mechanic vs einstein, the mechanic may have a greater number of mechanically related connections, but the real measure is the the overall number of connections between all subjects and the speed and accuracy at which the connections can be made.
I think this comes down to relative intelligence, people become specialists, which gives them the ability to focus a large ammount of the cognitive capacity on a particular area. But Intelligence is (or should be) a measure of their average performance over all fields.
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oh joseph, a quote from bill hicks for you
"..we are the universe experiencing itself subjectively.."
why is our view point subjective?
maybe because there is no such thing as Objective.
Do you have proof for an objective truth? just one objective truth would be enough, you would change our whole understanding of existence if you could.
The closest we have come are collective subjective perspectives, where a group of people (or all people) agree on something. But just because every human believes something to be true does not make it so. Even if the entire universe was a concious entity looking upon itself, it would still not be an objective perspective.
You ask why we have a subjective perspective, but do you really expect an answer? Who is to say what the greater purpose of the universe is? why is gravity? when is time? Perhaps our sole purpose is to wander around the universe altering existence through our perception of it. Maybe the universe wasn't sure what it was, so it created life to decide for it.
There are multitudinous answers to your question, none of them ultimately satisfying, but as in the case of the this thread , does it matter?
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"I am of the opinion that there has to be an objective reality somewhere, in order to support the multitude of subjective ones."
Such a leap of faith seems out of character for you ati..
Why couldn't a subjective reality function independantly?
Even if thre were a greater reaility supporting all of subjective ones, why assume it is objective? It could as easily be Subjective as well, or a collective subjective perspective.
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I used to be a very naughty boy lacey, and if i start telling stories like that one, i shall never stop
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well I had a teacher in year four that i really didn't like, at the school nativity play i was meant to be one of the wise men, my line was to point at the star and say "look, there it is!". Well on the day of the performance in front of te whole school, politicians and parents I turned and pointed at my teacher and said "look there's the bitch!" Kids were giving me GI Joes, marbles and slap bands as tokens of appreciation for weeks afterwards
In year 11 i got a report card stating that i had missed more math classes than there had been classes in the year, wether it was a typo or a deliberate jab from my math teacher i will never know either way, it was probably correct
As for the test, i had an english teacher in year 9 that i really didn't like she was a white south african, and used to speak in her thick accent, telling us about how it wss better in the old country, how she would get the "black boys" to do all the work. I really disliked her, so when it came time to write an essay on what we disliked in the world, i wrote one word, very pointedly squared at her. "racists", written in large letters in the middle of the page, i handed it in and went outside for the rest of the lesson, when i recieved my test score i had -1. It seemed an arbritrary number, but it was just enough to drop me from a B to a C everage, other similar incidents later insured i fail anyway, so i was not too concerned
But that was nothing, in year 8 i decided that the whole school system was flawed and that the ciriculum, dress code and the idea of homework all had to be revised. To this end, i went on strike for two weeks. I showed up to school but refused to do any work until my concerns had been addressed. Eventually the dress code was overturned and students were given a greater say in which subject we would study. The changes were thrown out the year after i left, but still... a small victory
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would it though?
what if your subjective reality is functioning fine by itself, in a pseudo-objective state, and then i subjectively percieve it?
surely a truly objective reality must remain constant regardless of who is observing it and wether anyone is observing it at all. A subjective reality can not meet this criteria. But, in limited circumstances subjective realties have existed which varied wildly from our accepted collective perspective (think hallucinations). Which led me to wonder again, could a subjective perspective exist without any external impetus?
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well lacey, as long as your entering something
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and yet you still believe in it ati? surely that is the same leap made when believing in god.
What would be the term for someone who had an agnostic or atheist attitude toward objectivity? Averitasist (person without truth?)
nullus extra (nothing outside?)
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no way! that is so wrong, marking not believing in god as a wrong answer, sheesh!!!
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of course ati, this whole thread is dealing in generalisations
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"simply due to the fact that some model has to exist to explain the presence of the observers in the first place."
thats a fact? why didn't i get the memo?
According to causality, yes. The problem we face when we delve into this kind of thing is that the common sense rules we work with seem to evaporate around us. Take the beginning of the universe for instance, Causality seems to reach its Alpha and can progress no further. Indeed it begs the question as to wether causality exists at all outside our universe, but of course we can not answer that. My point is this:
Beyond all that we know and can guess at lies a void, without any of the constants we take for granted, without matter, energy or the laws and forces that effect them. While we think of our reailty as a fishbowl, with us swimming around safely inside with the abyss safely outside, as we look at things from the perspective of higher dimensions we being to see all of reality flattened onto the 10th or 11th dimension, here the abyss is very close, it is all around us. If we are drawings on a piece of paper, then the nothingness that is so foreign to us is infact the air upon us at all moments, around us, between us, in us. We are directly connected to the void that all universes sprang from.
No model needs to exist to explain our presence, it is entirely possible that we just are, just as the void just is, without cause, without form, without reason. And even that is just one possible explaination, Once you start denying things on the basis of a lack of proof, where do you stop?
That is the truly lonely, barren existence of someone who banishes all proofless assumptions.
We give shit to religious nutters, but they are just sheltering within a collective subjective perspective, just as we are when we accept reality, objectivity and all of our other proofless concepts. The decision of what to accept without proof is a line we must all draw in the sand, it is the line that maintains our sanity.
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I was thinking that maybe people should recieve a small token ammount of karma just for entering. say maybe 5, handed out when they provide a link to their entry. any thoughts?
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mmmm, hopeful.
Ati, we just have to make sure there are safegaurds in place to makes sure we retain ourselves. I would hate to see Advertisements in my head, let alone hackers..
I don't wanna be part of a botnet
allthough having one would be cool, a p0ssnet.
Still, as keen as i am to get into my virtual reality, the possible negative consequences of this are enormous. Soldiers, blindly following orders, remote control humans. Math 101 implant, surely we end up in a situation where the richest people can buy themselves the most upgrades, making themselves into an oligarchical super race of hyper-intelligent over lords. And with genetics progressing the way it is they will probably live for centuries, if not forever.
I would hate to be born in the third world in a couple of hundred years time, no money, no brain, no hope.
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sporks r teh r0x0rs!
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like i'd take spork spelling advice from a spork hater!
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lol karma is tastier than cookies
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all right, this is what i think.
My brain is an electrochemical system. In a way, the oft recycled potential energy that makes up my every nerve impulse has, through the action of being me, become me. Upon death, that potential energy is transfered into the surrounding enviroment and during decomposition the matter and energy that was "I", becomes in turns, the worm food, the root food, the air and the animal. At some point some the very matter i am made of will be part of another thing, reborn in each potential energy shift, diluted and dispersed into the fabric of existence. Returned to whence i came.
As for the conciousness that is "I", my last moments will, from my subjective perspective, slow time to a standstill. Each milisecond, a millenia in my mind. Whatever i truly believed in my life, will be the standard i judge my memories against. And so, what ever belief system i followed with full conviction will become true. The microseconds will slip past, memories judged and fading, i will send my mind to whatever place i believed it should go. If i thought myself truly worthy of bliss then i will be in rapture, if i judge myself harshly, the worst mental anguish will wrack my tattered conciousness. However i judge myself, where ever my subconcious send me, that is the reality i shall feel and experience until all the energy of my thoughts are gone.
there is no punishment or bliss greater than that which our brains can make for ourselves.
My view on death leaves room for anyone of any faith, they will find what they seek, and what they most honestly believe they deserve.
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I have had many many many lucid dreams, my dabbling began when i started taking mushrooms at about 15, and reading alot of Carlos Casteneda. I was practising Tensegrity, all day every day, harvesting dream energy for use at night. In my dreams i could do anything, i had the egglike appearance described by Casteneda, and could release great string of energy towards anything, altering my enviroment at will.
I spent months like that, high as a kite, performing strange pseudo-martial art movements in every waking minute. Friends of mine met me in the dreamscape, and we had long sprawling conversations that covered many levels of conciousness at once. When we awoke we could remember what we had discussed.
At the moment i do not truly i believe i saw or did most of my memories from that time, but i still have complete control over all of my dreams when i choose to use it. These days i just enjoy the ride on my dreams, exploring what my subconcous throws up for me to deal with.
As for staying aware of your dream without waking up, you must ride the line between awareness and sleep, you are awaking too fully. When your mind notices the illusion your in, sit back, watch the storyline progress for a while before interveening.
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Joseph, lets read back your original question.
"Let's say I beamed myself up star trek style to two different locations. Which one would I be or am I already dead?"
ok, here where all the problems started.
"Let's say..." you are arguing over the details of a supposition from the get go.
"what minds may live in front of us?" Indeed Ati, and what minds are we a part of? and what minds are a part of us?
"...I beamed myself up star trek style..." and what style is that exactly? do we really understand the physics of functioning teleportation devices well enough to be holding arguements of them?
"...to two different locations." Now we have accepted your suppostion and have, in doing so, accepted even more unspecified detail to be submitted for judgement.
"Which one would I be..." well without any knowledge of how the system works its hard to say. but after guessing at some probable methods of instantaneous transport, I'd be saying either your atoms have been moved in their entirity, in which case you could not create two copies, or you have created a new replica of your body at a new location. let's assume you have replicated every single atom at a new location while retaining the original copy. The thought processes of your two selves would begin to diverge immediately, being in a new enviroment will alter your clones thought patterns, as being made from new atoms may also. In such a situation, Ati is correct, your "I" will be present in both the clone and yourself unless one is put into stasis for the duration of the transfer.
"...or am I already dead?" well it wouldn't be a very good transporter if it killed anyone who used it now would it? But i suppose you touch on an interesting point, intentionally or otherwise. In each moment you are alive you are shedding the past allready, each second slipping into the past is like a mini death, a part of you passing to an unreachable place. So yes, in a way you are dying, and being reborn as two people with the same memories and tendancies, their enviroment will shape them from that moment, they are two individuals, and you are both of them.
So do you think we can all move back to the topic?
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What if comments with higher karma were highlighted somehow, maybe change their background colour to a slightly darker shade. then you could see the comments that were most pertinant. without getting rid of any.
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i never knew that fibs, very informative indeed!
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Con, they dont have to be milenia, just long enough for our final thoughts to play out and fade away. I am just saying you can think alot in a very short space of time when nessacary, perhaps enough to create a final reality for yourself.
Joseph, you claim that Ati in incapable of understanding you, well are the rest of us also so incapable? Perhaps you could dumb it down for us, what is it exactly you are trying to say? As far as i can see, all of your points have been sufficiently answered, what are you still disatisfied with? please, let us know, and if you could refrain from insulting us all, that would be great.
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Con, and you don't have to believe me, thats the point no one has to, its probably better if you don't. Build yourself a fantasy world now, populate it with virgins and angels, believe in it so strongly that it is melded with your subconcious, grafted onto your id. Then when your last moments come you will experience that bliss, in your mind, as your life slips away. Now, if you want to believe you just disapear into nothingness, by all means believe that too, it doesn't bother me, i am sure you will experience that very thing if you believe it hard enough. It just won't be nearly as fun as the bliss
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Ati, I don't think Humans are in a position to judge what is or isn't life or conciousness.
It seems highly likely that we will find multitudinous examples of conciousness within our universe that would not be considered life by our current standards.
I don't see why the size of the body of water or the length of time it has been full should make it much less likely to be sentient. Why couldn't a single atom live an entire life time of rich and varied experiences within the space of a second?
Our entire experience of the world is through our senses and memory thereof. Can you imagine sentience without senses or memory? Or with a completely different set of senses? I don't think it is at all impossible.
I am of the opinion that a creatures primary sense organs go a long way to defining it as an intelligence. We even refer to the way we understand things as the way we "see" things, this opticentric worldview makes it very hard to relate to the smell or sound creatures, We don't take our queues from the same things as dogs, we can't even tell what they can sense, which makes it harder to truly relate, with another human, we can usually guess at what they are thinking from where they are looking.
I have never heard an argument as to why pure energy life forms can't exist, if anyone has a good reason, i'd love to hear it.
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ati, the us military has a similar system for their "future force warrior" worth having a look at..
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but the thread wouldn't leave its original community, it woold just be replicated into the new one.
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thanks jawad, that clears things up
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but i am from the mtv generation! i had my imagination replaced by an instatiable need for stimulation and a short attention span.
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oh, and i don't personally think meta-communities should be owned by users, that would result in an aristocracy.
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I wrote a song the other day that goes:
"each dollar is a vote
and each day is new
but i am broke
and theres repeats on the news"
I think thats pretty cool
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caffine is nothing... think about sugar, refined cane sugar is not exactly a dietary nessecity. I have heard it said that if sugar was discovered today it would be classed as a drug, and yet we put it in absolutely everything.
I dare anyone to go a whole week without consuming any refined cane sugar. good luck, you will need it. Not only is it nearly impossible to find food without sugar, the withdrawel symptoms are terrible.
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oh sorry rath, i don't mean to step on anyone's toes here. I am just putting it up for public debate..
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Rob, do you think dry topics like theoretical math, should have to directly compete with a lively medium like chat for peoples attention?
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ok, my review of the current entrants is this:
I think
Ati's entry is excelent, truly very well written insight in to the mind of a dead man.
Jawad's history function is an very witty interpretation of theme. he used the pure form of history to depict the future.
Pirana0's hacking of shuzak, giving himself, lacey and I a grand ammount of karma is a bold statement of things to come. His work seems to say "The future is now".
Ryan's Chatbot as a crude form of AI, and is almost precient in its depiction of future minds.
My entry is about the last human.
I have been working on Fib's entry, but it is taking a lot longer then i thought. Her recording is done, but sadly i have been too perfectionist with the video. We will get it to you guys, but it is sadly too late for this contest.
All together, this contest produced:
An AI
A Karma Exploit
A New Site Feature
Two short stories.
And an unfinished Video
Well done to all my fellow entrants. The first ever Shuzak Contest has been a succes.
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Guys.
How are we deciding a winner? lol
Jawad has an entry now...
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